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Alabama's Roy Moore to run for U.S. Senate in 2020
abc3340.com ^ | June 20, 2019

Posted on 06/20/2019 12:30:02 PM PDT by rdl6989

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To: plain talk

South Carolina is full of conservatives and yet they re-elect Flimsey Grahamnesty who has supported EVERY amnesty attempt since 2006.


241 posted on 06/20/2019 4:21:11 PM PDT by Lurkinanloomin (Natural Born Citizen Means Born Here Of Citizen Parents_Know Islam, No Peace-No Islam, Know Peace)
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To: DoodleDawg
So then if slavery was morally wrong, and I think we can all agree on that, then ignoring the law, say like declaring all slaves used to support the ongoing rebellion "are, and henceforward shall be free" was a morally correct action and one you believe was justified?

I can argue morality, and I can argue law, and while I prefer them to be the same, I recognize that often they are not.

Yes, slaves should have been freed by any means possible, but I have a real problem with people making the law say things it doesn't say.

The Union invaded on the basis of what they claimed was actual law. (No right to secede.) They did not invade because they thought it was immoral to secede, nor did they invade because they thought keeping slaves was immoral.

They invaded for entirely technical legal reasons of the South not having the legal right to secede, a position which I believe is clearly wrong based on the evidence.

But yes, while you are claiming a technical justification for doing what you are doing, why not do the morally right thing as well?

Freeing the slaves was the moral thing, but I don't think that was the primary reason why they did it. Even so, they shouldn't pretend that what they did was legal. It may have been moral, but it wasn't legal, and they should have just owned that instead of pretending.

242 posted on 06/20/2019 4:21:20 PM PDT by DiogenesLamp ("of parents owing allegiance to no o<ither sovereignty.")
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To: arrogantsob

What is stupidity is someone that thinks they know more about Roy Moore than someone that’s lived in Alabama most their life.

Roy is a walking talking clown show.


243 posted on 06/20/2019 4:22:27 PM PDT by boycott
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To: RedStateRocker
I’m not disputing the vapidity of the ‘reasoning’ or their justification. I’m merely being my usual pedantic self and commenting that ‘due process’ is not something one should expect from bedwetting RINOs of no moral conviction (except sucking at the public tit and milking taxpayers for everything they can)

I think we should expect it, and I think a moral people would demand it, but the world is going nuts and we are along for the ride.

I have my own reasons for somewhat disliking Moore, which are of no import.

I have a pretty good grasp of how and why Moore chafes a lot of people the wrong way, and I even share some of those concerns. He is going to be portrayed as a nut that will be used to damage other Republican candidates if he ever manages to get into the Senate. They are going to use him as a tool to hurt Republicans in more moderate districts, and this may ultimately cause more hurt than good in the long run.

“is this fair to Moore”?

My dad once told me “’Fair’ is a place you go to ride ponies and eat cotton candy, son”

That's good, and unfortunately, I believe it's accurate.

244 posted on 06/20/2019 4:26:52 PM PDT by DiogenesLamp ("of parents owing allegiance to no o<ither sovereignty.")
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To: DiogenesLamp

I read the whole thread.
You are to be commended for your efforts.
Too many people want to be manipulated and won’t think for themselves.
That’s why the majority of our Senators are Bush League Republicans.


245 posted on 06/20/2019 4:28:30 PM PDT by Lurkinanloomin (Natural Born Citizen Means Born Here Of Citizen Parents_Know Islam, No Peace-No Islam, Know Peace)
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To: Lurkinanloomin
South Carolina is full of conservatives and yet they re-elect Flimsey Grahamnesty who has supported EVERY amnesty attempt since 2006.

He's been much better on various issues these last couple of years, but I will not forget what a backstabbing little creep he has been to us while McCain was still plaguing us.

I don't trust him, but I am less against him than I used to be.

246 posted on 06/20/2019 4:28:39 PM PDT by DiogenesLamp ("of parents owing allegiance to no o<ither sovereignty.")
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To: Lurkinanloomin
I read the whole thread. You are to be commended for your efforts. Too many people want to be manipulated and won’t think for themselves. That’s why the majority of our Senators are Bush League Republicans.

Thank you sir, I try to be fair, and I try to call things as I see them.

I am convinced that the electorate was manipulated by media lies, and i'm also convinced liberal control of mass communications is going to kill this nation if we don't do something to break their control over "news" and public discussions.

247 posted on 06/20/2019 4:30:31 PM PDT by DiogenesLamp ("of parents owing allegiance to no o<ither sovereignty.")
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To: Grimmy
But, it has nothing to do with the media. Moore is a loser, because the media said so. Eastasia has always been our ally. We have always been at war with Eastasia.

Exactly the sort of Orwellian world in which we currently live. The media has too much brainwashing power, and this newest generation doesn't seem to have any idea how to think for themselves.

Very scary.

248 posted on 06/20/2019 4:32:18 PM PDT by DiogenesLamp ("of parents owing allegiance to no o<ither sovereignty.")
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To: DiogenesLamp

He’s doing the McCain two-step, he learned from the master.
He’ll be backing amnesty the day after he’s re-elected.


249 posted on 06/20/2019 4:34:42 PM PDT by Lurkinanloomin (Natural Born Citizen Means Born Here Of Citizen Parents_Know Islam, No Peace-No Islam, Know Peace)
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To: Lurkinanloomin

I expect you’re right. We need term limits. It’s the only way to break this corrupt system.


250 posted on 06/20/2019 4:37:01 PM PDT by DiogenesLamp ("of parents owing allegiance to no o<ither sovereignty.")
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To: DiogenesLamp
Freeing the slaves was the moral thing, but I don't think that was the primary reason why they did it. Even so, they shouldn't pretend that what they did was legal. It may have been moral, but it wasn't legal, and they should have just owned that instead of pretending.

But you agree the Emancipation Proclamation was justified and you think Lincoln was right to do it, right?

251 posted on 06/20/2019 4:45:52 PM PDT by DoodleDawg
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To: DiogenesLamp
If Moore wins the GOP nomination then I would expect Trump to disavow him on the campaign trail ... because the media will drape Moore around the neck of every Republican candidate in 2020.

I wish Moore would find something else to do ... because he will he completely ineffective as a U.S. Senator with no allies in Washington.

252 posted on 06/20/2019 4:58:58 PM PDT by Alberta's Child ("Knowledge makes a man unfit to be a slave." -- Frederick Douglass)
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To: DiogenesLamp
So Moore isn't particularly good as a politician, but he's got something I would really like to see in the Senate. A willingness to tell Federal Judges to go F*** themselves when they are wrong on a matter of law.

How exactly does this happen in the U.S. Senate? Is he going to spend all his time railing against Federal judges instead of working as a legislator in the Senate?

253 posted on 06/20/2019 5:02:00 PM PDT by Alberta's Child ("Knowledge makes a man unfit to be a slave." -- Frederick Douglass)
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To: itsahoot

Mitch only takes the agenda of the Koch Brothers and the globalists
He did give us the judges though


254 posted on 06/20/2019 5:03:54 PM PDT by magna carta
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To: HenpeckedCon

That special election was occurring during Christmas season
it will be quite a different setting this time
To his credit Roy Moore signifies the SCOTUS ruling today on the Cross monument

He is a social conservative warrior


255 posted on 06/20/2019 5:09:18 PM PDT by magna carta
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To: rdl6989

The men don’t know, but the little girls understand.


256 posted on 06/20/2019 5:13:50 PM PDT by Eric Pode of Croydon (I'm an unreconstructed Free Trader and I do not give a damn.)
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To: Lurkinanloomin

Yeah well look at Alabama - we elected a dem Senator FCOL. The urban areas of these states are dem controlled and all it takes is a lack of conservative turnout to tip the balance.

Alabama is full of conservatives much better suited for the US Senate than Roy Moore.


257 posted on 06/20/2019 5:16:06 PM PDT by plain talk
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To: plain talk

Same could be said for Kentucky and South Carolina and yet they will probably re-elect the same guys who refuse to secure the border and see amnesty as the only answer.


258 posted on 06/20/2019 5:18:45 PM PDT by Lurkinanloomin (Natural Born Citizen Means Born Here Of Citizen Parents_Know Islam, No Peace-No Islam, Know Peace)
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To: Lurkinanloomin

“Same could be said for Kentucky and South Carolina”

I don’t think so.


259 posted on 06/20/2019 5:24:28 PM PDT by plain talk
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To: plain talk

Kentucky could have had Matt Bevin for their Senator.
He’s now Governor, but tried to unseat McConnell, would have been a much better Senator.
Flimsey Grahamnesty has backed EVERY amnesty attempt since 2006.
You’re telling me there isn’t someone in South Carolina who would side with the citizens and the rule of law?


260 posted on 06/20/2019 5:28:33 PM PDT by Lurkinanloomin (Natural Born Citizen Means Born Here Of Citizen Parents_Know Islam, No Peace-No Islam, Know Peace)
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