Posted on 05/24/2019 5:03:04 PM PDT by ameribbean expat
I kind of agree with you but I think he was involved..but tricked or coerced.
The value of a relationship with a country that tries to overthrow our government is zero. You deserve the coming Chinese rule, if your attitude is anything but “yes Mr. American this was horrible we will turn him over to be executed right away”.
I’m telling the truth, not subscribing to a ridiculous conspiracy theory. If that pisses off people, so be it.
They didn't. All they knew was that the man worked for Donald Trump. That's more than enough reason to meet him in the circumstances. He might be a useful contact at some point.
Did papa want to meet him?
Yes, as I understand it, that's exactly what he was told. And because Papadopoulous worked for Donald Trump, he thought it worth an hour for an informal meeting.
I've never claimed to be. What I am is informed about how Australian diplomats do and do not operate, with a reasonable of how Australian security services operate as well, in a city like London.
One, they are part of 5 eyes and can spy on Americans, share the info, and circumvent the rules here.
We do that in terms of electronic intelligence and communications on occasion - I don't know personally if Australia has ever done it in the US, but I do know the theory that it circumvents rules that say foreign intelligence services shouldn't operate in their own country.
But that wouldn't apply in this case. If something like this happened, it would be a matter of activities taking place in the United Kingdom. Neither American foreign intelligence (CIA) or Australian foreign intelligence (ASIS) have any legal impediments in operating in London if they feel a need to.
Two, perhaps the President of the US asked them to cooperate and made up some believable reason.
If so, there wouldn't be anything inappropriate about that on the part of Australian organisations. There might be on the part of American organisations.
Time will tell.
Yes - and as I say, I'd like to see this all fully and properly investigated. Mainly because I think that would lay to rest this nonsense that Alexander Downer did anything he shouldn't have, and put any blame that does exist where it lies (which in my view is likely to be with George Papadopoulous).
Rake is a reasonably good comedy - but it’s a comedy, not a documentary.
It’s not a high ranking or high rating TV show in Australia, by the way. If it wasn’t for overseas sales, it wouldn’t be being made. And it’s also mostly about the New South Wales judicial system, not the Australian one, or that in other parts of Australia.
because I think that would lay to rest this nonsense that Alexander Downer did anything he shouldn’t have, and put any blame that does exist where it lies (which in my view is likely to be with George Papadopoulous).
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Once the declassed docs are released, and we know, well be able to talk about what happened factually.
Until then, its opinion.
Meet you then for a follow up.
Best
Progressives and dedicated elitists have acted in ways we cannot understand outside of their One World ideology. Downer appears to be one of these. I cannot blame you for being incredulous. here in the USA we have dozens of examples of people in high office who had sworn an oath to uphold and defend the Constitution against enemies foreign abd domestic who have done the opposite in relation to the Trump Presidency.
Here is some press on Downer:
“That is until it is remembered that Downer has very close connections with Bill and Hillary from his days as Australias Minister for Foreign Affairs. It was in that capacity that Downer persuaded the Commonwealth to pay $A25 million into the Bill Clinton foundation, ostensibly to fight AIDS in South East Asia.”
The Clinton Foundation is present in almost every case where some otherwise lauded personality has abused their bureaucratic power to usurp President Trump.For example, James Comey had actually been a member of the board of the Clinton Foundation.
IMHO the Clinton Foundation acted as a shadow government within the US government to forward international One World progressive movement contrary to the Constitution of the United States.
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