Posted on 05/22/2019 10:20:46 AM PDT by UMCRevMom@aol.com
RE: Trump will get Nevada, ME and CO’s EC votes regardless of how the citizens of those states actually vote in 2020... AWESOME.
These 3 states would not have made any difference in 2016. But, these 3 states went for Hillary in 2016. Which means, had what they just voted on been in effect in 2016, they would have effectively ceded their votes to California and New York even if Trump had won in say, Nevada.
Democrats can’t win without making “special” extra constitutional laws.
So basically they are saying individual and majority votes in their states no longer matter. Got it.
RE: So, in 2020, the popular vote goes to Trump we’ll say. Now the Electoral votes of all those blue states that passed this go to Trump.
I am not confident that the popular vote will go to Trump in 2020. The elections still go through these 4 states — Ohio, Michigan, Wisconsin and Pennsylvania ( and with Biden running, I’m not sure PA is a lock for Trump ).
IOWs, you could theoretically have like three or more candidates, and the winner might have the most votes of the three, but not the majority of all votes cast.
This is voter suppression on a massive scale.
They know it will discourage many conservatives from voting if Trump is not on the ballot.
It will help them controll congress and local governments.
Democrat politicians? Try’em, hang’em, be done with it, they’re all scumbags breaking their oaths.
Consider that during the Reagan Mondale election Reagan swept all the states except Minnesota. Under this plan Minnesota’s electoral votes would have been cast for Reagan. While this end run around the electoral college is unconstitutional, if implemented it could backfire on Democrats.
Don’t mean squat. The republic stands.
So when a Republican wins the national popular vote, CA, NY, and Il’s EC voted HAVE to go to the Republican Dem heads will explode and accuse the Republicans of cheating and disenfranchising the citizens of those states.
If the Dems nominate someone sufficiently whacko Trump stands a high likelihood of winning the popular vote.
Exploding Heads Ahead!!
It is likely the Conservatives would grumble and take it but Liberals would riot and generally act the fool.
Heads, Conservatives lose - Tails, fools win.
Ray v Blair 1952 seems to be the only time that SCOTUS ruled on a similar issue. This involved whether a political party could compel its electors to vote for the party's chosen candidate during a primary election, or whether they can vote as free agents. The decision allows parties to restrict how their electors vote.
The current laws that states are passing are quite different since these concern general elections and not party primaries. I suspect that Justice Jackson's dissent in Ray v Blair will carry more weight when these "end-around the Constitution" laws get challenged.
SCOTUS better rule on this quickly so that we don't have a debacle in 2020 when the Left tries to steal the election with this scam.
“Lovely, Trump will get Nevada, ME and CO’s EC votes regardless of how the citizens of those states actually vote in 2020... AWESOME.”
I expect that the Democrat structure in those states signed on to this compact will renege on their pledge as soon as they realize Trump wins the popular vote in 2020. And if by some miracle Trump wins the traditional electoral college but not the popular vote then Trump will have standing to immediately appeal to the Supreme Court which will slap down this nonsense. It’s clearly unconstitutional.
In what Marvel multi-verse do you think this can happen?
Judging by the crowd turnouts for Biden in his recent PA swing, I’d say that Slow Joe is not threat to carry Pennsylvania should he get the nomination (and I don’t think he will).
IIRC, an interstate compact requires Cogressional approval.
“. Article I, Section 10 of the United States Constitution provides that “No State shall, without the Consent of Congress... enter into any Agreement or Compact with another State.” Consent can be obtained in one of three ways. First, there can be a model compact and Congress can grant automatic approval for any state wishing to join it, such as the Driver License Compact. Second, states can submit a compact to Congress prior to entering into the compact. Third, states can agree to a compact then submit it to Congress for approval, which, if it does so, causes it to come into effect. Not all compacts between states require explicit Congressional approval – the Supreme Court ruled in Virginia v. Tennessee that only those agreements which would increase the power of states at the expense of the federal government required it.”
I have mixed feelings. Here in California it may get conservatives who normally don’t vote (since it is a hopeless cause here in California) to the polls. Of course with illegal aliens voting and vote harvesting it is probably still a list cause.
The country should be split up anyway. Let the liberal states die on the vine
Trump stands absolutely no chance of winning the popular vote. The big population centers that will determine the election are all in the blue states (NY and CA, for example), and furthermore, the Dems have been stuffing their cities with illegals and making them “sanctuary cities,” where lack of immigration enforcement permits massive fraud, letting felons vote, and tinkering with the voting systems and ballots at a county level to ensure that all Dem voters have to do is check the box for Dem.
They don’t know and don’t care about individual positions, just that there’s a D after the name.
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