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Men are afraid to mentor women after #MeToo and it hurts us all: study
New York Post ^ | 05/17/2019 | By Rob Bailey-Millado

Posted on 05/17/2019 9:26:55 AM PDT by Responsibility2nd

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To: Responsibility2nd

what’s with that last name ?


21 posted on 05/17/2019 9:50:29 AM PDT by onona (It is often wise to allow a person a graceful path.)
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To: Responsibility2nd

I’m afraid that the author is 100% correct. = When I was on AD with the Army, my driver for over 2.5 years was a (very pretty) female SGT/E5.

BOTH of us were “officially counseled” by the HR Department for “the possible appearance of fraternization”, as numerous people who knew that SGT W________ was my driver “just couldn’t believe” that a male/female, who spent many hours alone together, were NOT “sexually intimate”.
(The HR Department’s “busybody” finally “backed-off” when both of us volunteered to take a polygraph. When we both passed the test, I went to the Post CDR with the test’s results & requested her help.)

Our experience is ALL TOO TYPICAL of such superior/subordinate “work relationships”, as a result of the LOONY/HATEFUL “feminazis”. - The TRUTH is that those crazies have NEEDLESSLY INJURED the “advancement potential” of many a woman in the business/professional/military work environment.

Yours,TMN78247
USA, Retired


22 posted on 05/17/2019 9:51:00 AM PDT by TMN78247 ("VICTORY or DEATH", William Barrett Travis, LtCol, comdt., Fortress of the Alamo, Bejar, 1836)
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To: Responsibility2nd

“...Men are scared of women now....”

Then they’ll need to struggle and learn on their own.

Like Men have to.

#TooBadSoSad


23 posted on 05/17/2019 9:54:05 AM PDT by NFHale (The Second Amendment - By Any Means Necessary.)
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To: metmom

Did he touch you?
No.

Did he make unwanted advances?
No.

Did he say anything that was inappropriate?
No.

What is the problem, then?
He made me feel uncomfortable.

Good enough for us! He’s gone. And will have a Black mark that will follow him forever and make him unable to ever find a job.


24 posted on 05/17/2019 9:55:47 AM PDT by uranium penguin
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To: mad_as_he$$

She sounds like a dizzy lib, and kudos to you for limiting your encounter IT. Give me a mature woman any day of the week.


25 posted on 05/17/2019 9:55:48 AM PDT by JonPreston
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To: mad_as_he$$

You described a regular daily occurrence with me. Phone in face gals routinely wander around my office space. I give them no quarter except to glare at them and tell them to look where they’re going, please.

Course men are guilty too. Had one guy drop his phone cause he was too busy to notice me.


26 posted on 05/17/2019 9:56:17 AM PDT by Responsibility2nd ( Import the third world and you'll become the third world.)
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To: Responsibility2nd

Liberals ruin everything they touch by politicizing everything.


27 posted on 05/17/2019 10:00:14 AM PDT by Skeptical constituent
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To: PGR88
There wasn't much mentoring when I wanted to move to software engineering. Barnes & Noble, Borders and other bookstores were the source of my "mentoring". Lots of "disposable" income is on my bookshelves today. Even more lives as PDF files from Oreilly, Apress, Manning, Prentice Hall, Pragmatic Programmers and more. Much of what I wanted to learn was well beyond "mentoring" resources in the office environment.

My staff includes both males and females. Work is conducted via the "virtual office". Skype sessions and screen shares. No more "in person" meetings. Given the change in personnel policies and interaction, I'm perfectly happy to work in that environment. Lower risk.

28 posted on 05/17/2019 10:01:14 AM PDT by Myrddin
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To: Responsibility2nd

If you really want to be disgusted, go to the website that the article is based on. The essence of the website is that the lack of advancement of women in business is the fault of men, and men need to change to accommodate women in the workplace.

This week, my principal resigned his position because he was accused by several female students of making them feel uncomfortable. I know two of the accusers - sociopathic malcontents who have gleefully told me in offhand comments that they would make a false complaint against someone if they didn’t get their way. There’s no accusation of sexual abuse. He just made them feel uncomfortable, in one case by touching a shoulder, in another case by a look. The girls in question are doing fine. He has lost his career.

Last year, a female student accused another student of rape. He spent five months in juvenile detention before she recanted the story. She was at graduation two nights ago, smiling and having a good time.

I’ve had several female coworkers just make up shit about me and complain to the boss about it, small stuff, not really important and not enough even to have the complaint on file, but motivated by emotions, self-righteous indignation, and self-delusion. In all cases, the women supported each other, even with evidence to the contrary in plain sight.

Mike Pence is correct. The figures I have read state that about 2 to 5 percent of the population is sociopathic, even divided between men and women. You can’t tell who is who. And sometimes normal women decide to ruin you anyway.

In 50 years, we’ll look at these days the same way the Chinese view the Cultural Revolution. But first, the ruined and the destroyed.


29 posted on 05/17/2019 10:02:02 AM PDT by redpoll
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To: metmom
I think it's important to understand that this situation is EXACTLY what the other side WANTS.

Mentoring isnt exactly like teaching...you are taking time to help show someone the ropes, how to navigate the contours of the company, of business. Common sense tells you to NOT drink a Long Island Iced Tea at a corporate event....a mentor will tell you about a half-dozen people who've lost their careers doing so AND the current roster of reprobates who do that.

Let's face it: There are truly reprehensible people in business, education, etc coming from ALL walks of life. They prey on subordinates. In turn, many younger adults have had all sorts of garbage thrown at them in college. The Millenials that are not pod-eating snowflakes and HAVE a job, don't want to live in Mom's basement. Mentorships are one way of avoiding the minefields.

If the statist, haters of free-thought are successful, then men and women of good Deplorable stock will avoid mentorships. That will leave Millenials to be mentored by MSNBC, John Oliver, and Huffpo, or the resident Antifa-loving corporate tool who is adroit at mind-infection without getting caught.

Self-preservation, of course, is of the utmost importance. Nobody should put themself in a situation where they lose their job over a mentorship gig. But most of the time, you can pick your mentor and mentors can pick the person they'll mentor...if done right, mentorships are symbiotic: young people become upstanding citizens (and maybe even Deplorables...) and us old dogs learn a LOT about what is REALLY going on in the firm.

30 posted on 05/17/2019 10:04:52 AM PDT by DoodleBob (Gravity's waiting period is about 9.8 m/s^2)
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To: metmom

>>“which means we’re not getting an equal seat at the table,” Sandberg says

Except when they’re promoted to meet diversity quotas. They won’t have EARNED their seat at the table, but they’ll occupy the seat all the same.


31 posted on 05/17/2019 10:06:46 AM PDT by vikingd00d (chown -R us ~you/base)
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To: Responsibility2nd

I’m not scared of them, I just don’t want anything to do with them, because they are totally nucking futs and extremely expensive.


32 posted on 05/17/2019 10:08:36 AM PDT by chris37 (Monday, March 25 2019 is Maga Day!)
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To: Responsibility2nd

Not a crock. Not all men are afraid of women but I am. I have always been polite reserved and quiet but that is not enough to protect my paranoid self. I don’t want to be alone in a room with any woman. I am very careful what I say and how I say it. You might say I am an expert at politically correct speech.


33 posted on 05/17/2019 10:11:08 AM PDT by webheart (Grammar police on the scene.)
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To: Responsibility2nd

Fake lying news! MEN ARE NOT AFRAID. Men have assessed the costs and benefits and determined that the risks of mentoring women are not worth any gain. Women are the problem, not men.


34 posted on 05/17/2019 10:13:34 AM PDT by The Truth Will Make You Free
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To: Responsibility2nd

Really? So they have figured out that if you repeatedly get punched in the face by a purple alien, that you develop an aversion to unnecessary contact with purple aliens?

Who woulda thunk it??


35 posted on 05/17/2019 10:15:09 AM PDT by DesertRhino (Dog is man's best friend, and moslems hate dogs. Add that up. ....)
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To: metmom

” Sandberg says. “It’s not enough to not harass us, you need to not ignore us, either.””

Classic female. “Don’t stare at me!”... then gets enraged at not being noticed.


36 posted on 05/17/2019 10:18:39 AM PDT by DesertRhino (Dog is man's best friend, and moslems hate dogs. Add that up. ....)
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To: Responsibility2nd
Sandberg says. “It’s not enough to not harass us, you need to not ignore us, either.”

Ummm...the problem is not ignoring a woman is sometimes considered harassment.

37 posted on 05/17/2019 10:21:46 AM PDT by BookmanTheJanitor
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To: allendale

“Mike Pence has made an irrefutable point, If you are alone with a woman in a business or professional setting, you are subject to being blackmailed or ruined”

It’s just like being under artillery or rocket fire. I have experienced both. You want to run to safety. But there is a horrifying instant that you realize that anything you do, including doing nothing at all, can put you right at the impact point.

Pence is safer, but nobody is really ever safe from the barrage.


38 posted on 05/17/2019 10:21:54 AM PDT by DesertRhino (Dog is man's best friend, and moslems hate dogs. Add that up. ....)
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To: Responsibility2nd

I taught at a large university for 35 years. In 1998, I stopped meeting female students in any place that wasn’t public with other known people present. It was a wise move. Several of my colleagues went through hell with false accusations of sexual and racial discrimination from students who didn’t get the grade they thought they deserved.

One fellow actually lost his job for three years because he refused to take sensitivity training when two gay women complained about a passage he read in class. It was one written by “Little Egypt,” a famous belly dancer who compared belly dancing to holding a vibrator under a plate of jello. The ladies didn’t like the word “vibrator” and complained to the gay women who ran the Sexual Harassment and Rape Prevention (SHARP) program at our university. The accused went all the way to the US Supreme court to get his job back with a never disclosed payment for his troubles. He spent a good deal of time on the phone with his broker after that.


39 posted on 05/17/2019 10:22:36 AM PDT by FXRP (Just me and the pygmy pony)
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To: mad_as_he$$

It could have been a bad situation for you, certainly.

What she is too dense, unaware, or whatever to realize is that it could have been an even worse situation for her. Walking through a parking structure with your attention on your phone and no situational awareness whatsoever is stupid. Instead of sticking her nose up she should have thanked you, profusely, and learned from the experience.


40 posted on 05/17/2019 10:23:35 AM PDT by susannah59
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