Posted on 05/14/2019 3:53:21 AM PDT by topher
As tensions rose over the weekend between the US and Iran in the Persian Gulf, several vessels were “sabotaged” off the coast of the United Arab Emirates. Both Iranian media and the UAE reported the incident, but 24 hours after it happened, much of what occurred was still shrouded in mystery, with allegations of “explosions” and questions about how severe the “sabotage” actually was.
The Saudi energy minister confirmed that two of its oil tankers were targeted in a “sabotage attack.” It took place as the tankers were “on their way to the Arabian Gulf” via the Emirate of Fujairah, the statement said. The UAE said that in total four boats were damaged. The UAE’s The National claimed that “Iranian and Lebanese media outlets aired false reports of explosions.” The same reports in the UAE said the tankers had been on their way to the US after being loaded with Saudi oil. No one was hurt, the UAE said.
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Amen!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
I should have had the courage to say it for my dead friends.
But the pressure around here lately to love Saudi Arabia is huge.
I am ashamed. It wont happen again.
Yes, 209/Dolphin class. Not sure if Israel would work with GCC countries in combat against Iran, at least in public.
The Truth About Tonkin:
Questions about the Gulf of Tonkin incidents have persisted for more than 50 years. But once-classified documents and tapes released in the past several years, combined with previously uncovered facts, make clear that high government officials distorted facts and deceived the American public about events that led to full U.S. involvement in the Vietnam War.
On 2 August 1964, North Vietnamese patrol torpedo boats attacked the USS Maddox (DD-731) while the destroyer was in international waters in the Gulf of Tonkin. There is no doubting that fact.
But what happened in the Gulf during the late hours of 4 August—and the consequential actions taken by U.S. officials in Washington—has been seemingly cloaked in confusion and mystery ever since that night.
https://www.usni.org/magazines/navalhistory/2008-02/truth-about-tonkin
After viewing the pic, you posted, crazy Iranians might have a severely damaged sub in those waters.
Now that would be funny. Take out their ports to get refueled and rearmed. Blow to smithereens any surface ship that even looks like it could be a refueling platform and in 72hrs(your estimate) their subs start popping up to the surface, like bobbers on a fishing line, as their diesel tanks are empty and batteries are dead.
Then the A10s can get busy sinking them with some 30mm. What a great time that would be.
Captain Herrick seems to have gotten us into a war with his imaginary first attack. In hindsight, war was inevitable, but going on such a flimsy basis suggests how eager LBJ was. Being in the military at the time, I confess we were champing at the bits, too.
Most likely just going in small circles to the left.
I don’t think it was a ramming by a sub, not sure what it was.
I work with former Air Force maintainers. Some of them, after retiring, I’ve learned have worked on a variety of aircraft. Not one, not a single one of them will ever talk badly about the A10. Talk about F16s, F15s, F35s....yeah yeah yeah whateva whateva. Bring up the A10, they get all giddy and it’s non-stop. “I wish they’d rebuild it”. “They already have all the plans, etc, just need a manufacturer to retool a plant and they can start making them again, even better”. “Did you know the A10 can do this or that or this or that”.
With that being said....ONE 30mm round can take down any plane that can take to the air, in the world today....if the A10 were to strafe a cruise ship, from the water line up toward the top deck, the 30mm round would do so much damage to the structural integrity of the ship that it could split apart...how does the AF know that, apparently they did just that to see just how lethal the round is. That is according to one of the guys that worked on them and lots of other planes in the AF inventory.
I worked on the prototype for AN/SQQ-89, but only from a software perspective -- no knowledge of Sonar.
Any knowledge I gleaned of sonar is from Tom Clancy's Red Storm Rising and The Hunt for Red October.
[Persian] Gulf News -Saudi Arabia oil stations attacked by drones
[Subs and frogmen.
The Italians had some major successes against the British in WWII doing the exact same thing.]
SOSUS was basically declassified way back in the ‘70’s The Hunt for Red October.
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