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To: romanesq

BS from Pompeo. Why does anyone believe this guy? He’s a neocon shill like Bolton. Are we still blaming the Russians for everything? Why would Maduro listen to the Russians if he thought his time was up? Trump has a habit of making bad choices for his administration, and Pompeo and Bolton are 2 of the worst.

Remember, part of Trump’s appeal and his campaign promises included getting the US out of futile wars around the world. Instead, we have troops in more places than ever including the dangerous s**thole Africa; we are still bogged down in Iraq, Afghanistan, and Syria; we keep moving troops and equipment ever closer to Russia to pimp with them; and now we want to do regime change in Venezuela. Meanwhile, we are bringing in more Muslims and letting them take over some cities and towns, and we have on ongoing invasion on our southern border.

Why aren’t South American countries dealing with Venezuela?


8 posted on 05/01/2019 6:21:55 AM PDT by Pining_4_TX ("Every election is a sort of advance auction sale of stolen goods." ~ H.L. Mencken)
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To: Pining_4_TX

NOT TO SMART ARE YA.

RUSSIA WNTS THE OIL. LOT’S OF IT THERE.


11 posted on 05/01/2019 6:24:22 AM PDT by mplc51
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To: Pining_4_TX

Vlad sends you his love...


15 posted on 05/01/2019 6:28:51 AM PDT by rrrod (just an old guy with a gun in his pocket)
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To: Pining_4_TX

Why aren’t South American countries dealing with Venezuela?

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This was my question about Syria. I’m not saying that ISS is Assad or anyone else weren’t important issues, but we shouldn’t step up to be team america world police whenever everyone else wants to stick their heads in the sand.

At least Venezuela is in our hemisphere, but you are right. Why isn’t this primarily something for South American nations to assist with?


20 posted on 05/01/2019 6:33:31 AM PDT by z3n
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To: Pining_4_TX

Why would Maduro listen to the Russians if he thought his time was up?


Perhaps because the Russians told him that they could not protect him from an American attempt to shoot down the plane. Over water, of course, and an apparent mechanical malfunction, of course.


22 posted on 05/01/2019 6:35:40 AM PDT by cuban leaf
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To: Pining_4_TX

“Why would Maduro listen to the Russians if he thought his time was up?”


Because when the “Russians indicated that he should stay” it wasn’t a nice, polite conversation. The Russians are interested in having a lot of control/influence with a nation that has 100 billion barrels of oil in the ground, and not only is Maduro their man, but the guy who would replace Maduro is decidedly unhappy with the Russians because they have propped Maduro up. So the Russians likely “indicated” to Maduro that while his time was limited if he stayed, that it’d be a lot more limited if he tried to get on the plane.

I’m not exactly a fan of all of these foreign entangements that we’ve been in for the last 75 years. But Cuba & Nicaragua have supported terrorism and Communism around the globe (mainly in Central/South America and Africa) for as long as they’ve been around - obviously with Soviet/Russian help - and if they get a foothold in extremely mineral-rich Venezuela, that’s going to be big trouble for us. Look for them to specifically target Mexico next, just because it will completely screw us over if there is massive civil unrest there (it is bad enough now, when they’re just a generic Turd World shithole).

We have a situation where the Russians (primarily) and the Chinese are very committed to establishing a foothold in this hemisphere, one with enormous potential financial resources that won’t go away any time soon. You may not agree, but I think that we have to contribute to getting those two obviously hostile powers out of this hemisphere. That doesn’t mean that we shouldn’t disengage from a lot of stuff going on near their nations (we probably should), or that we shouldn’t persuade/incentivize nations near Venezuela (principally Brazil and Columbia) to do the lion’s share of the work (we should). But to do nothing would, IMHO, be very foolish.


26 posted on 05/01/2019 6:44:49 AM PDT by Ancesthntr ("The right to buy weapons is the right to be free." A. E. van Vogt, The Weapons Shops of Isher)
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To: Pining_4_TX

Of course, you are entitled to your own opinions, but I do not agree with you that Trump, Pompeo and Bolton WANT to start a “futile war” in Venezuela. Or agree with you that the Russians have “clean hands” in the human catastrophe there, that has created millions of refugees.

Since you seem to disapprove of the current actions being taken by the White House, I wonder what YOUR plan to end the suffering of the Venezuelan people would be:

1. Send Maduro a “strongly-worded” note of disapproval?
2. Cancel Maduro’s invitation to attend America’s July 4 Celebration?
3. Draw a joke “Red Line”, that Cuban and Russian soldiers would not be “permitted” to cross — as Obama did in Syria?
4. Nuke ‘em?
5. Something else?

If you have a good idea, please share it!


28 posted on 05/01/2019 6:50:15 AM PDT by pfony1 (Put Up or Shut Up!)
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To: Pining_4_TX
Why aren’t South American countries dealing with Venezuela?

America has to set well-formed outcomes. If we want a free and rational world, that is not a danger to us, we have to control what we can do - what lies within our area of control. To wait for others to do what we want them to do dis-empowers us.

36 posted on 05/01/2019 7:08:10 AM PDT by mjp ((pro-{God, reality, reason, egoism, individualism, natural rights, limited government, capitalism}))
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To: Pining_4_TX

My guess is the Russians told him to stay and forced him to stay cause he used the countries oil deposits as collateral for Russian loans. They own his butt.


60 posted on 05/01/2019 3:37:10 PM PDT by justa-hairyape (The user name is sarcastic. Although at times it may not appear that way.)
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