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The Latest: Short-circuit ‘likely caused’ Notre Dame fire
AP ^ | 04 18 2019 | Nicolas Vaux-Montagny

Posted on 04/18/2019 9:55:29 AM PDT by yesthatjallen

Edited on 04/18/2019 11:40:01 AM PDT by Jim Robinson. [history]

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To: JLAGRAYFOX
If any of you folks believe this hogwash...please contact me, for I have a bridge in Brooklyn, NYC, I would like to sell to you!!!

I'm not saying I believe it but I wonder why the firefighters who arrived after the first alarm didn't find the fire.

There was a fire, they didn't find it, they reset the alarm, and they left.

Regardless of how it started, the firefighters made a bad call and there needs to be an inquiry.

61 posted on 04/18/2019 10:35:18 AM PDT by yesthatjallen
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To: gaijin

100% short-circuit by PeopleWeHatedButTotallyDeservedToDieCuzTheyWerentExactlyLikeUs

62 posted on 04/18/2019 10:35:32 AM PDT by gaijin
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To: blackdog
circuits with oversized fuses or breakers will heat up the wiring until it (the wire) becomes the fuse.

I've seen that happen. High power audio amplifiers in cars, installed by chimps who placed the proper 50 amp fuse near the amplifier and not right next to the battery. The 10 gauge wire from the positive terminal gets sliced open by the seat track/rail and becomes a light bulb filament.

Oooh oooh that smell.

63 posted on 04/18/2019 10:35:50 AM PDT by Bloody Sam Roberts (A working definition of the new "Elite" would be; "Those who matter to those who think they matter.")
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To: JimRed

You can’t even assume that - the investigators haven’t been allowed in to investigate yet!


64 posted on 04/18/2019 10:36:39 AM PDT by Skywise
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To: yesthatjallen

Was the building insured? If so, by whom and for how much? Was the construction company hired to do renovations insured/bonded and for how much? I believe this fire will be investigated by more unbiased entities than the Macron government. It is extremely difficult to intentionally set a fire that burns a structure to the ground and to have that look accidental. It is also impossible to make an accidental fire appear to be intentionally set.

The actual cause will be found. The only question is will it become publicly known.


65 posted on 04/18/2019 10:39:41 AM PDT by photodawg
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To: JimRed

https://twitter.com/i/status/1118864301626990593 Have you seen this?


66 posted on 04/18/2019 10:40:40 AM PDT by Glad2bnuts (Sometimes a teacher, but always a student. The very essence and reason for discussion)
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To: Navy Patriot

67 posted on 04/18/2019 10:41:23 AM PDT by GraceG ("If I post an AWESOME MEME, STEAL IT! JUST RE-POST IT IN TWO PLACES PLEASE")
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To: yesthatjallen; gaijin

https://duckduckgo.com/?q=short+circuit+sabotage+device&t=h_&ia=web

https://www.mirror.co.uk/news/politics/police-investigating-pro-brexit-sabotage-14224917


68 posted on 04/18/2019 10:41:43 AM PDT by fishtank (The denial of original sin is the root of liberalism.)
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To: JimRed
If that turns out to be true, I owe Islam an apology. But lying cover-ups are so common, will we ever be sure?

I don't think we ever will. The cowardly left tries so hard to excuse Islam every chance it gets, that it is becoming difficult to take them seriously when they say "not terror (Islam) related". It's like the many times in his life that Bill Clinton has probably said "I did not have sex with that woman". Maybe one of his many denials is the truth, but the pattern of lying has already been set.

It may be that it was a short circuit, but if it wasn't, I still think they'd say it is; so, we'll never know for sure.

69 posted on 04/18/2019 10:43:17 AM PDT by Sans-Culotte (If it weren't for fake hate crimes, there would be no hate crimes at all.)
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To: yesthatjallen
The question for me is why didn't firefighters find the fire when the first alarm went off.

I have been thinking about this, and my first guess is that they never expected a fire to start in the roof. They probably believed that if there was a fire, it would have had to have began on some lower level.

If they didn't see the fire why didn't anyone smell the smoke?

Too high above them. Hot smoke goes up, not down.

Regardless of how the fire started the fire team has questions to answer.

Yes. I wouldn't want to be them right now.

70 posted on 04/18/2019 10:44:00 AM PDT by DiogenesLamp ("of parents owing allegiance to no other sovereignty.")
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To: yesthatjallen

Zeus, angry he’s no longer on top, threw a thunderbolt in anger.

He’s slow to anger.


71 posted on 04/18/2019 10:44:59 AM PDT by MrBambaLaMamba (Bigoted, hotheaded, dangerous gun owning demon)
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To: sweetiepiezer

There is more than one person moving on that platform.


72 posted on 04/18/2019 10:45:10 AM PDT by Glad2bnuts (Sometimes a teacher, but always a student. The very essence and reason for discussion)
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To: GraceG

When he found the matches at a Mosque.


73 posted on 04/18/2019 10:47:52 AM PDT by Navy Patriot (America NEEDS Mob Rule, another European and Mid East World War and a universal Draft)
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To: yesthatjallen

“Hey you guys let’s put these wires up in the 800 yr old wood. That ouhhta’ ‘bout do it!!!!


74 posted on 04/18/2019 10:48:31 AM PDT by TalBlack (Damn right I'll "do something" you fat, balding son of a bitch!)
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To: Bloody Sam Roberts

DC circuits are also more prone to wires roasting. I install a 5 amp power supply and separate DC common for all of my +24 control voltage circuits in machinery. Once I get close to 5 amps I rack another. It also makes troubleshooting and repairs much easier to find and fix. It us not standard practice to fuse inputs. Only outputs.


75 posted on 04/18/2019 10:51:43 AM PDT by blackdog
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To: yesthatjallen
On the other hand...2) Everything was done to avoid any source of heat near the wood of the roof. No electrical plug, no welding were allowed. So, Philippe Villeneuve says : “The hot spot hypothesis is therefore not the right one”.
76 posted on 04/18/2019 10:53:30 AM PDT by Antoninus ("In Washington, swamp drain you.")
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To: DiogenesLamp

Folks, I hate to scare you but there had to be at least 10 persons tasked with fire watch 24/7 on that structure. Anytime welding, grinding, cutting, type work is done, a dedicated location specific fire watch presence is required by code/law. Also all temporary circuits are required to be to code / law. I know. I do this stuff every day.


77 posted on 04/18/2019 10:58:10 AM PDT by blackdog
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To: yesthatjallen

Short-circuit? On 875 year old oak? Nonsense. Would have had to smolder for hours or even days, and smoke would have alerted people.


78 posted on 04/18/2019 10:58:39 AM PDT by montag813
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To: yesthatjallen
VIDEO: Architect of restorations for Notre Dame Speaks Out! Media: "So your're telling us that this type of timber doesn't burn like that?" Notre Dame Architect: "NO, You know, oak that is 800 years old doesn't burn like that....You would need a lot of kindling to succeed."
79 posted on 04/18/2019 10:59:57 AM PDT by montag813
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To: yesthatjallen; pookie18
SHORT-CIRCUIT-PERP
80 posted on 04/18/2019 11:03:46 AM PDT by FrankR (Did I mention that NO Russian collusion was found...NONE....?)
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