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The debate used to be about whether spying on Trump campaign officials was justified, not whether...
Washington Examiner ^ | April 12, 2019 11:11 AM | Philip Klein

Posted on 04/13/2019 4:29:03 PM PDT by E. Pluribus Unum

FULL TITLE: The debate used to be about whether spying on Trump campaign officials was justified, not whether it occurred

Outrage by liberals and Democrats over Attorney General William Barr noting that "spying did occur" on the 2016 Trump campaign is a sorry example of moving the goal posts. Last year, the active debate was not over whether spying occurred — which it did by a reasonable use of the word — but whether it was justified. Barr was careful not to weigh in on that debate. Yet Democrats, spurred on by their liberal base and supported by the media, have been out to portray Barr's statement as some sort of shocking betrayal of his role as the nation's top law enforcement officer.

"Perpetuating conspiracy theories is beneath the office of the Attorney General," Senate Minority Leader Chuck Schumer, D-N.Y., fumed in calling for Barr to retract his statement. House Intelligence Committee Chairman Adam Schiff, D-Calif., said Barr's statement, "strikes another destructive blow to our democratic institutions."

Yet last year, it wasn't being disputed that among other things, that the FBI conducted surveillance of Carter Page, a former Trump campaign official, that included wiretapping after obtaining a Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Act warrant. In a 2018 memo by none other than Schiff, minority Democrats on the intelligence committee argued, "DOJ and FBI would have been remiss in their duty to protect the country had they not sought a FISA warrant and repeated renewals to conduct temporary surveillance of Carter Page, someone the FBI assessed to be an agent of the Russian government."

(Excerpt) Read more at washingtonexaminer.com ...


TOPICS: News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: barr; coup; deepstate; fisa; fisawarrants; trumptower
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1 posted on 04/13/2019 4:29:03 PM PDT by E. Pluribus Unum
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Just think if Mitt Romney had of won this would have happened to him


2 posted on 04/13/2019 4:34:34 PM PDT by butlerweave
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To: E. Pluribus Unum

President Trump needs to declassify and release everything relating to the coup attempt.


3 posted on 04/13/2019 4:37:34 PM PDT by jospehm20
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To: E. Pluribus Unum
spy

/spī/

noun 1. a person who secretly collects and reports information on the activities, movements, and plans of an enemy or competitor.

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...... The above is the Dictionary definition of a Spy ....

4 posted on 04/13/2019 4:42:26 PM PDT by R_Kangel ("A nation of sheep will beget a nation ruled by wolves")
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To: E. Pluribus Unum

Once again an article, this time in the Washington Examiner, references the FISA warrant and how it allowed spying on Carter Page without saying that this allowed surveillance of everyone Page communicated with as well as every person that this first circle communicated with. Thus just about everyone in Trump’s inner circle was “legal” to be surveilled. I do not understand why media on our side does not repeat this until Americans are informed about it. Most are not.


5 posted on 04/13/2019 4:50:35 PM PDT by Freee-dame (Best election ever! 2016)
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How did he run the FBI? ---the dummy (cough) "can't remember" anything.

CIRCA December 2018--Comey Denies Knowing Clinton Law Firm Helped with ‘Pee’ Dossier:
‘I Don’t Remember the Name Perkins Coie at All’…

Breitbart | 10 Dec 2018 | Aaron Klein / FR Posted by E. Pluribus Unum

In what could become a possible issue for James Comey, the former FBI director repeatedly stated in testimony to the House Judiciary Committee that he “never” knew the author of the infamous anti-Trump dossier had been retained to do his work by a U.S.-based law firm. The law firm in question, Perkins Coie, reportedly funded the controversial Fusion GPS to conduct the anti-Trump work on behalf of Hillary Clinton’s 2016 presidential campaign and the Democratic National Committee (DNC).

Those efforts resulted in the largely-discredited dossier written by former British spy Christopher Steele.

Despite saying "he did not know" Steele had been hired by Perkins Coie, the FISA warrant to spy on former Trump campaign adviser Carter Page (signed three times by Comey) stated the FBI had information that Steele had been hired by a “US-based law firm.”

It specifically stated the FBI “was approached by an identified U.S. person who indicated to Source #1 [Steele] that a U.S.-based law firm had hired the identified U.S. person to conduct research regarding Candidate #1’s ties to Russia.”

Comey made his remarks during testimony on Friday, Dec 2018.
Here is a transcript of the relevant portions of Comey’s latest testimony as it relates to Perkins Coie (linked):
(Excerpt) Read more at breitbart.com ...

6 posted on 04/13/2019 4:58:53 PM PDT by Liz ( Our side has 8 trillion bullets; the other side doesn't know which bathroom to use.)
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To: Freee-dame

Not necessarily defending it, but wasn’t Carter Page under surveillance by the FBI long before he became associated with the campaign?


7 posted on 04/13/2019 5:17:26 PM PDT by babble-on
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To: jospehm20

People need to swing for it


8 posted on 04/13/2019 5:19:31 PM PDT by mrmeyer (You can't conquer a free man; the most you can do is kill him. Robert Heinlein)
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Just think if Mitt Romney had of won this would have happened to him

I doubt it. They would have savaged him his entire presidency like they did GW Bush but they wouldn't have tried to take him out. He's one of them.

9 posted on 04/13/2019 5:37:24 PM PDT by TigersEye (This is the age of the death of reason.)
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I agree


10 posted on 04/13/2019 5:58:29 PM PDT by samtheman (To steal an election, who do you collude with? Russians in Russia or Mexicans in California?)
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The debate used to be about whether spying on Trump campaign officials was justified, not whether it occurred

Good point.

11 posted on 04/13/2019 6:14:28 PM PDT by libertylover (Democrats hated Lincoln too.)
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To: babble-on

Carter Page had worked with the CIA or FBI. His role in all
of this is quite cloudy.


12 posted on 04/13/2019 6:29:04 PM PDT by Freee-dame (Best election ever! 2016)
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...Schiff...said Barr's statement, "strikes another destructive blow to our democratic institutions."

Talk about a drama queen.

13 posted on 04/13/2019 6:38:35 PM PDT by AndyJackson
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14 posted on 04/13/2019 6:51:01 PM PDT by IWontSubmit (2)
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The debate used to be about whether spying on Trump campaign officials was justified, not whether it occurred
IOW according to the RINO never-Trumpers, now admitting it occurred, it's justified because of a bogus illegal FISA approved by a judge...

Got it.

15 posted on 04/13/2019 8:53:48 PM PDT by lewislynn
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“Just think if Mitt Romney had of won this would have happened to him”

You are kidding, right?


16 posted on 04/13/2019 10:18:16 PM PDT by ModelBreaker
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Probably would have resigned, too, for the good of the country, and we’d be enjoying President Kasich’s doing Nancy and Chuck’s bidding right now. They’d all be raking Kasich over the coals, too, but it would be friendly kidding by comparison. Just enough to cajole/prod Kasich into giving them what they want.


17 posted on 04/13/2019 10:27:54 PM PDT by BradyLS (ODO NOT FEED THE BEARS!)
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... but whether it was justified. Barr was careful not to weigh in on that debate.

Ummm - when the idiot Dem insisted he rephrase "spying", Barr used "unauthorized surveillance" as a suitable sub....he weighed in and did it ....bigly.

18 posted on 04/14/2019 3:46:11 AM PDT by trebb (Don't howl about illegal leeches while not donating to FR - it's hypocritical.)
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To: babble-on
Not necessarily defending it, but wasn’t Carter Page under surveillance by the FBI long before he became associated with the campaign?

No, it is actually worse than that “contrived excuse”.

Carter Page was an “active” FBI INFORMANT, not an FBI “surveillance” criminal being investigated!

19 posted on 04/14/2019 8:15:48 AM PDT by Robert A Cook PE (The democrats' national goal: One world social-communism under one world religion: Atheistic Islam.)
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The debate used to be about whether spying on Trump campaign officials was justified, not whether it occurred

"The beauty of being a liberal is that history always begins this morning."
-Ann Coulter

-PJ

20 posted on 04/14/2019 8:18:26 AM PDT by Political Junkie Too (The 1st Amendment gives the People the right to a free press, not CNN the right to the 1st question.)
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