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Congress Is About to Ban the Government From Offering Free Online Tax Filing. (trun)
propublica ^ | 9APR19 | by Justin Elliott

Posted on 04/10/2019 6:46:20 AM PDT by vannrox

Actual title:

Congress Is About to Ban the Government From Offering Free Online Tax Filing. Thank TurboTax.

Just in time for Tax Day, the for-profit tax preparation industry is about to realize one of its long-sought goals. Congressional Democrats and Republicans are moving to permanently bar the IRS from creating a free electronic tax filing system.

Last week, the House Ways and Means Committee, led by Rep. Richard Neal, D-Mass., passed the Taxpayer First Act, a wide-ranging bill making several administrative changes to the IRS that is sponsored by Reps. John Lewis, D-Ga., and Mike Kelly, R-Pa.

In one of its provisions, the bill makes it illegal for the IRS to create its own online system of tax filing. Companies like Intuit, the maker of TurboTax, and H&R Block have lobbied for years to block the IRS from creating such a system. If the tax agency created its own program, which would be similar to programs other developed countries have, it would threaten the industry’s profits.

“This could be a disaster. It could be the final nail in the coffin of the idea of the IRS ever being able to create its own program,” said Mandi Matlock, a tax attorney who does work for the National Consumer Law Center.

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To: vannrox

I’m kind of torn Would I be better off with Turbo tax or should I trust the IRS!!!!!!!!!!!!( TRUST THE IRS)


21 posted on 04/10/2019 7:18:36 AM PDT by ontap
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To: vannrox

Prohibit? Congress should make it mandatory!


22 posted on 04/10/2019 7:19:19 AM PDT by Yo-Yo ( is the /sarc tag really necessary?)
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To: HamiltonJay
The United States... the best government money can buy.

The problem is they don't stay bought.

23 posted on 04/10/2019 7:19:30 AM PDT by central_va (I won't be reconstructed and I do not give a damn.)
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To: central_va
The problem is they don't stay bought.

I'm given to understand that one has to pay the prostitute every time one wants a service...

24 posted on 04/10/2019 7:28:13 AM PDT by null and void (If socialism is so grand, why are Guatemalans coming here instead of going to Venezuela?)
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To: cuban leaf
I always file electronically with TurboTax. No accountant or tax preparer required but little ole' me. Refunds are back in my account quickly. No hassle with mailing.

This effort by Congress is not a slight at TurboTax's ability to help millions of taxpayers. TurboTax does an excellent job of guiding people through the complex tax system without having to hire expensive tax preparer's.

This is an effort be Congress to make it harder for folks to file. Period.

Why would they pass a law making it illegal for the IRS to have a free, online tax preparing service for taxpayers?

It's all politics. Nothing to do with good reasoning.

25 posted on 04/10/2019 7:29:26 AM PDT by HotHunt (Mollasses runs faster up hill than politicians do running downhill.)
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To: C210N
Now, remove the other 999,999,999 things that you do that is outside the purview of Article 1 Section VIII.

Is providing free online filing any less Constitutional than providing free paper forms?

26 posted on 04/10/2019 7:30:47 AM PDT by NobleFree ("law is often but the tyrant's will, and always so when it violates the right of an individual")
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To: HotHunt

Why would they pass a law making it illegal for the IRS to have a free, online tax preparing service for taxpayers?


One good reason is that private preparers are a form of checks and balances for IRS interpreting the rules their way.


27 posted on 04/10/2019 7:32:26 AM PDT by PeterPrinciple (Thinking Caps are no longer being issued but there must be a warehouse full of them somewhere.)
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To: HotHunt

I never get a refund. I file on the 15th and write a check. Last year I used the short form. This year we include SS payments so I don’t know if I can use the short form. We’ll find out...


28 posted on 04/10/2019 7:36:31 AM PDT by cuban leaf
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To: NobleFree
Interesting point you make.

If the feds provide free forms, perhaps there are cost savings that could be implemented. We could go back to this simpler single-page tax form:


29 posted on 04/10/2019 7:36:40 AM PDT by C210N (You can vote your way into Socialism; but, you have to shoot your way out of it.)
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To: vannrox

I can’t find this alleged prohibition in the text of the bill. I do find the following:

“the IRS Free File Program shall continue to make available to all taxpayers (without regard to income) a basic, online electronic fillable forms utility.” [https://www.freefilefillableforms.com/]

- https://www.congress.gov/bill/116th-congress/house-bill/1957/text#toc-H89024FF324BB4E0D978AA11F2EE48221


30 posted on 04/10/2019 7:44:02 AM PDT by NobleFree ("law is often but the tyrant's will, and always so when it violates the right of an individual")
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To: vannrox

...because we want the Feds to do something that makes it impossible for the private sector to compete and puts them out of business? Health care, anyone? Where does it end? I buy the software and file electronically. I get my return before the Feds can “think twice”.


31 posted on 04/10/2019 7:46:52 AM PDT by rhombus10
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To: vannrox

The counter theory for this is interesting.

Supposedly the reasons the Tepublicans are on board with this is because of anti-tax support. If you make it easy and cheap for people to file income taxes then they’ll become more complacent and accepting of more taxes. Making it onerous is to keep the frustration level up so people fight back against oppressive taxation.


32 posted on 04/10/2019 7:50:15 AM PDT by Skywise
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To: HotHunt

as do I. the cost is far outweighed by the certainty that the math will be correct, there won’t be dumb mistakes/omissions, and all the income sources and deductions are spoken for.

Have done so for at least the last 10 years.


33 posted on 04/10/2019 7:50:34 AM PDT by RitchieAprile
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To: C210N
Oh, like the post card example one that went:

Enter Income for the Year: $______

Send it in.

?

34 posted on 04/10/2019 7:58:08 AM PDT by Calvin Locke
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To: cuban leaf
My wife and I run a cattle farm and two other small businesses, besides having several rental properties. A little more complicated than a short form.

We've both drawn SS for ten years now but have never had any withholding taken out because I never know where our three businesses profit and losses will leave us.

I never know how much we make because we don't draw any salaries. We have lived quite comfortably off cash-flow for years now.

It used to take me a week or longer to do our taxes manually. Reading manuals, researching situations, figuring out the annual changes to the tax code. I can do my taxes digitally now in one evening.

And I always get a refund.

35 posted on 04/10/2019 7:59:05 AM PDT by HotHunt (Mollasses runs faster up hill than politicians do running downhill.)
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The administrative agreement being codified into law says, “During the term of this Agreement, the IRS will not compete with the Consortium in providing free, on-line tax return preparation and filing services to taxpayers.” - https://www.govinfo.gov/content/pkg/FR-2002-11-04/html/02-27909.htm


36 posted on 04/10/2019 7:59:08 AM PDT by NobleFree ("law is often but the tyrant's will, and always so when it violates the right of an individual")
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To: PeterPrinciple
".... IRS interpreting the rules their way..."

You can contact the IRS with the same question about your tax preparation ten times and you will get ten different answers....from the same agency.

So much for interpreting the rules their way.

37 posted on 04/10/2019 8:02:59 AM PDT by HotHunt (Mollasses runs faster up hill than politicians do running downhill.)
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To: RitchieAprile
I've found the annual cost of TurboTax to be reasonable when compared to tax preparation services like H&R Block.

And I get to control my own destiny and not have to rely on someone else.

38 posted on 04/10/2019 8:07:05 AM PDT by HotHunt (Mollasses runs faster up hill than politicians do running downhill.)
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To: vannrox
I'm pretty fed up, you know

Think positive. It's a bipartisan initiative to protect profiteering by income tax preppers. When they should be passing laws to end extreme profiteering by pharmaceutical and insurance companies.

This is what happens when the gov says it's going to change things for the better.

39 posted on 04/10/2019 8:08:28 AM PDT by grania ("We're all just pawns in their game")
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To: vannrox
permanently bar the IRS from creating a free electronic tax filing system

Nothing is free, especially from the government.

40 posted on 04/10/2019 8:10:12 AM PDT by ElkGroveDan (My tagline is in the shop.)
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