[Nateman]

I see a way out. Article V. It was not used in time to stop the first Republican-Democrat war. Even with a population 1/10 the size of America today it killed more Americans than all our other wars combined. A new Rat civil war would only be worse yet I fully expect a bunch of concern trolls to chime in and say we can't take the risk of a runaway convention. We can't take the risk of NOT using Article V.

[flamberge]

I see a way out. Article V.

I do not see the Article V convention as a way to avoid the next Civil War. At best it will be a distraction from the inevitable. More likely such a convention will be instantly co-opted by the Leftists, with an extremely predictable and unfavorable result.

Too many people want Socialism. They will not be persuaded otherwise by any legalistic or rational arguments. They will follow the leaders who promise "free stuff" (at somebody else's expense). Most of them will be cheated, but that will not stop them.

There will be war. The victors will purge the vanquished from any positions of authority and take what they have. The vanquished will die in resentful poverty and be mostly forgotten.

That is how history has always worked.

[Jacquerie]

<>We can't take the risk of NOT using Article V.<>

Exactly.

The sunshine patriot Article Opponents at FR are so dense they prefer millions of dead and a new Constitution in the aftermath, rather than a peaceful COS to amend the one we still have.

Article V – Saving the Constitution.