Can I ask a stupid question?
How is it legal, to test for marijuana, and deny someone a job for marijuana use, in a state where it is legal?
If a person is using a legal substance, and is denied a job because of using a legal substance, is it time for lawsuits?
In this state it’s illegal to drug test as a work requirement for seasonal jobs with the exception of CDL drivers (they fall under federal guidelines). Much of the work in VT is seasonal, so basically no drug testing. Although you can be tested after an incident.
Same as testing positive for alcohol. When they say “drugs don’t work here” they mean it.
I worked for years at a company that tested for drugs. Pre hire/employee, didn’t matter. You pop positive for Jack Danial’s or Bud Light and you were fired on the spot, or not hired if it was a pre-employment screen.
There are lots and lots of jobs that require drug screening before employment, and random testing once employed. Just because a drug is legal, that doesn’t mean you can use it and keep your job.
Lawyers favor legal Marijuana.
Freedom of association. You can also deny someone a job for drinking, and for smoking tobacco. You decide what your job requirements are. And in the world of moving heavy stuff where insurance premiums matter, those requirements often include peeing clean.
Very easy. Marijuana is still illegal under federal law and federal law trumps state law. The feds just haven't cracked down on states that have "legalized" it.
The quick and dirty answer is that in many cases the drug-testing requirement comes from the Feds. State law is irrelevant.
I think I have read that some companies won’t hire smokers,and that’s legal.
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Can I ask a stupid question?
How is it legal, to test for marijuana, and deny someone a job for marijuana use, in a state where it is legal?
If a person is using a legal substance, and is denied a job because of using a legal substance, is it time for lawsuits?”””
It is a stupid question......Do YOU have your own business???.......
Many companies are being told by their workmen’s comp insurance companies that NO CLAIM will be paid if the hurt employee tests positive for ANY DRUG-—including Marijuana.
How about having a business where employee’s drive your trucks? A florist for instance. IF the vehicle insurance company won’t give Liability coverage for any employee who tests positive for ANY drugs, you cannot have that person in your trucks.
Some homeowner’s insurance companies are stating that IF anyone is hurt on your property & they test positive for any drugs of any kind, NO coverage will apply. Not a whole lot different than refusing to cover Pit Bulls that you might own.
I would like to figure out how I can rent a building/house & know that the renter isn’t using drugs. I don’t need the headaches.
I can remember when California would seize your house /property if authorities found Marijuana or other drugs inside. Once had a blind date who I caught putting a baggie of MJ into my kitchen cupboard. AFTER I reamed him out quite well, I locked him out of my house. Told the person who ‘fixed me up’ to NEVER do any blind dates for me EVER AGAIN. Broke off my contact with that person, also.
I have the right to protect my Property-—My business & my person. Drug users need not come near me. Home Depot has hug signs on their windows:
Hiring: IF you use drugs, don’t bother. WE TEST.
I applaud them for that.
You can sue anyone for anything, but employers will frequently not hire people if they go in for a screening and there's alcohol in their system.
Drinking is legal but drinking at work or being high from drinking, and then showing up for work ... is not allowed. That’s how. Safety comes first, and a clear head is necessary.
Some people understand a lot more about drug use than they do workplace safety and related laws.
I really don’t want to work in a place where people that aren’t 100% are even less so but are still driving heavy equipment that can kill in a heartbeat. I don’t think the insurance companies would want much of that either.
You see, maybe not, all these little freedoms do do as you want end at the nose of the person who is free do do them. When freedoms of choice begin to interfere and endanger the lives of mine and me they have to be contained.
Smoke all the pot you want, drink all you want but keep all the effects of that at home and don’t expect me to pay for your not being wanted in the workplace.
THC stays in the bloodstream longer than alcohol, I believe. It can be detected days afterward.
Plus, long-term marijuana use makes people lethargic & practically retarded.
Employers dont want employees who are drunk on the job, even though alcohol is legal.
Potheads can easily pretend not to be stoned on the job, but still have severely impaired judgement.
Do you think your idea should apply to alcoholic beverages?
Marijuana use is still a federal crime. Thus, states can decide not to prosecute it, but they cannot actually legalize it. And where safety is concerned, the hiring companies have legitimate concerns. THC, being fat soluble, stays in the system for a long time. Furthermore, there are several receptors that cannabinoids bind, each with different functions and binding affinities, all of which are being actively researched. This implies that marijuana has multiple effects (from all of the cannabinoids, not just THC) and we simply do not know enough to say for certain that a person who has come down from the high is not functionally impaired. I know I don’t want potheads on the road driving big rigs, even if they swear they only toke after they drive...
Alcohol is legal. People get fired all the time for going to work drunk.
Employers have been testing for tobacco use for quite a while now. I know I’ve been tested 2 x in the past 10 years for side jobs.