Posted on 03/21/2019 6:24:33 AM PDT by Alas Babylon!
He was a sell out to the American people and absolutely had no good qualities.
“A Medal of Honor winner would never lie, unless that was the price for the award.” - itsahoot
Shame on you! Just how in the hell do you think Bud Day’s feelings about McCain “bought” him a Medal of Honor?
Bud Day praised McCain’s behavior. Didn’t just remain silent. Although a political opponent of McCain, Day praised McCain’s behavior in the Hilton. And he certainly was in a position to know!
“Shame on you! Just how in the hell do you think Bud Day’s feelings about McCain “bought” him a Medal of Honor?”
I never said it did. What I am saying is the POW’s were all treated cruelly but only the Hanoi Songbird sang this tune:
From the National Archives and Records Administration, McCain says he is guilty of “crimes against the Vietnamese country and people” and compliments his medical treatment.
“The doctors were very good and they knew a great deal about the practice of medicine,” McCain says on the tape. “I remained in the hospital for some time and regained much of my health and strength. Since I arrived in the camp of detention, I have received humane and lenient treatment. I received this kind treatment and food even though I came here as an aggressor and the people who I injured have much difficulty in their living standards. I wish to express my deep gratitude for my kind treatment and I will never forget this kindness extended to me.”
And BTW he was most certainly NOT an opponent of McCain politically.
I strongly disagree with your statement that he was human like all of us. He went way beyond the norm for his McCain form of vileness
More on that POS from AZ this time the dossier. What would McCain and his people want to keep the editors from mentioning the name Christopher Steele? Could it be to protect the Russian connection to Hillary that McCain did not want people to find out about?
David Kramer, a long-time advisor to late Senator John McCain, revealed that he spent “a good hour or two” talking to two Wall Street Journal editors in a failed attempt to convince them not to publish the name of Christopher Steele, the former British spy who authored the infamous, largely-discredited anti-Trump dossier
Add the Arab Spring as the most significant and destructive world event in decades. North Africa and much of the Middle East were devastated. The migrant crises triggered by fallout of the Arab Spring has forever changed Europe. And John S McCain was right there with Hillary making it happen. In fact, wanted more support and faster action, claiming that the (Obama) administration has been “a step behind” events in Egypt, Libya, and Syria. If McCain had his way, Egypt would have been lost and Al Qaeda would be running Syria.
More on that POS from AZ this time the dossier. Whay would McCain and his people want to keep the editors from mentioning the name Christopher Steele? Could it be to protect the Russian connection to Hillary that McCain did not want people to find out about?
David Kramer, a long-time advisor to late Senator John McCain, revealed that he spent “a good hour or two” talking to two Wall Street Journal editors in a failed attempt to convince them not to publish the name of Christopher Steele, the former British spy who authored the infamous, largely-discredited anti-Trump dossier.
McCain was captured, likely tortured beyond his capacity, and nicknamed ‘Songbird’ by his captors. Can’t judge him for that as I wasn’t in his shoes.
He would have been a hero except he dishonored himself later. McCain became a champion of the Muslim Brotherhood. McCain defended Hussein.
He should have supported his President Trump, but he instead supported the coup to overthrow the duly elected President.
McCain did not die on his own terms, he was a traitor in the end.
mclame is a TRAITOR...just like Arlan Spector
I despise John McCain for his behavior as a politician. But there is no evidence he acted badly while a POW. Yes, at one point, he broke and signed a confession. Lots did.
As best I can tell, the “Songbird” thing first appeared in 2008 in a campaign flyer put out by a guy who had never been a POW. Bud Day caled the flyer “the most outrageous f——— lie I’ve ever heard.”
There are a TON of reasons to hate McCain. No reason to make up false stories.
Benedict Arnold was also at one time a “war hero”.
Why are you defending the SongBird?
“Why are you defending the SongBird?”
As I already wrote, “There are a TON of reasons to hate McCain. No reason to make up false stories.”
This “Songbird” crap seems to have first appeared nearly over 30 years after he got back from being a prisoner. Conservatives are supposed to care about the truth. McCain undoubtedly suffered hell while a POW. He probably has it in his future although only One gets to judge that. He did plenty of things to despise him for, from Keating 5 to lying repeatedly to voters in Arizona to betraying his country AS A POLITICIAN to wanting to get us into wars all over the globe.
But...truth is important. As a young LT, I met a few Vietnam POWs. What they went thru was obscene, and there is no reason to believe McCain got a free pass. Far to many eyewitnesses say otherwise.
According to his book, he was offered a quicker release but refused to accept it. According to his book . . .
Exactly, why do you suppose that is, because far too many say he was a SongBird.
With two admirals in the family reports can say anything and medals can be awarded. My Brother-in-law (now deceased) survived Bataan and he didn't get a silver star, maybe because his dad and grandfather were not generals.
“Exactly, why do you suppose that is, because far too many say he was a SongBird.”
Not who were there. The “Songbird” thing was first mentioned over 30 years later by a guy who hadn’t been a POW. When eyewitnesses say one thing, and no one on the other side was there, who do you believe? The guy who wasn’t there?
Were you there? People lie all the time especially in court or books. McCain disrespected every POW that didn't come home when he shut down families of MIAs. There are two different versions of his antics on the USS Forrestal, wonder which version you believe?
Some people even believe the Warren Commission Report and Snarlin Arlens report on Waco but some, like me, don't believe either.
“Were you there? People lie all the time especially in court or books.”
You are in the position of someone who denies every eyewitness and prefers to take the word of someone who wasn’t there, 30+ years after the fact. I assume you believe Kavanaugh was part of a gang rape ring, then?
I heard both sides of that issue, you think you heard both sides of the McCain story, I think you didn't.
Eye witness testimony must be supported by facts, McCains character does not fit with anything that describes hims as heroic. Hey I could be wrong if so shame on me, but everything that we can see of McCain publicly does not fit with Honor and Courage. You insist on judging him by events that you only know about second hand. I believe he is every bit as much a hero as John Kerry, who served in Vietnam lest we forget.
In a fit of an irrational temper tantrum, McCain pressed the attack and got shot down
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