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Conservative Candace Owens ‘influenced me above all’: New Zealand gunman
nypost ^ | 03/15/2109 | Lia Eustachewich

Posted on 03/15/2019 7:35:58 AM PDT by ChicagoConservative27

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To: ChicagoConservative27

Insane people are insane.

Mass murderers aren’t to be listened to for coherence or insight if any sort including their own motivation.


21 posted on 03/15/2019 7:46:20 AM PDT by ifinnegan (Democrats kill babies and harvest their organs to sell)
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To: ChicagoConservative27
Usually Mozlems get killed by other Mozlems because they don't consider the murder victims real Muslims. It happens so often it does not make much news. This story, however, is custom tailored for the left’s narrative. It makes me wonder if this is a false flag operator, like that fellow who killed all those elite family kids in Norway.
22 posted on 03/15/2019 7:46:51 AM PDT by Nateman (If the left is not screaming, you are doing it wrong.)
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To: marron

This is what I wrote on another thread about the shooting. I agree with you.

The SOB mentions Trump one time. So of course Trump will be blamed. He also writes that he was mostly inspired in his view point and the need to take action by Candace Owens. Now as far as I know Owens does not advocate for violence and never has. So that one comment raised a red-flag to me.

Candace is associated with Trump and pro 2nd Amendment. Signaling her out makes me believe this guy was coached by radical Leftists on what to write in his manifesto. Some of it is no doubt his own. But I think part of it is a mash up Aryan Nation/The Brotherhood talking points included as mis-direction. Sort of a Progressive’s bogeyman.

The mention of the US, especially the 2nd Amendment also tells of involvement of somebody here. And not a Conservative or even a more strident Right Winger. I almost hate to go here but to me it does have “Deep State” written all over it.


23 posted on 03/15/2019 7:47:17 AM PDT by lastchance (Credo.)
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To: ChicagoConservative27

The extremist’s reaction to what the extremist heard, when what they heard voiced no such extremist motives, cannot be used to condemn the person said to have influenced the extremist.

No where does Candace Owen speak of any violent motives as valid in support of the ideas she expresses.

That must be differentiated from extremist motives that ARE influenced by words that DO invoke support for the kind of actions an extremist takes (like the Quran’s support for violence in the name of Islam).


24 posted on 03/15/2019 7:47:34 AM PDT by Wuli
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To: ChicagoConservative27
Candace Owens
25 posted on 03/15/2019 7:48:13 AM PDT by blam
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To: ChicagoConservative27

A man Down Under commits a horrible crime and in his manifesto he cites a prominent American Black conservative as being a great “influence” on him! C’mon MSM! I passed a fertilizer truck on the way to work and this attempted media narrative stinks far worse than the insides of that truck!


26 posted on 03/15/2019 7:50:10 AM PDT by dowcaet
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To: ChicagoConservative27

That’s a plant!


27 posted on 03/15/2019 7:50:15 AM PDT by The Toll
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To: Bogey78O
The etnonationalism is a cover. The communism is real.
28 posted on 03/15/2019 7:52:43 AM PDT by cowboyusa (America Cowboy Up)
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To: ChicagoConservative27

Retarded media is retarded.

https://www.bellingcat.com/news/rest-of-world/2019/03/15/shitposting-inspirational-terrorism-and-the-christchurch-mosque-massacre/


29 posted on 03/15/2019 7:53:17 AM PDT by TexasGurl24
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To: blam

Not guilty.


30 posted on 03/15/2019 7:54:22 AM PDT by jimfree (My18 y/o granddaughter continues to have more quality exec experience than an 8 year Obama.)
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To: ChicagoConservative27

Yep, I first thought this was a deep state agent provocateur, now I know for sure.

Some kind of murderous psychopath, the type they keep on the shelf, ready and waiting.


31 posted on 03/15/2019 7:55:07 AM PDT by odawg
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To: ChicagoConservative27

We’re something like 70 times the population of New Zealand, brimming with guns, and yet we haven’t had a massacre of this scale against Muslims, at least that I can think of (despite some pretty big massacres in the opposite direction).

So what gives? Answer: The FIRST AMENDMENT. We can DISCUSS our issues, mainly Immigration, without risking jail time. I’m not positive about New Zealand, but it’s likely the same as Western Europe, where that discussion is basically outlawed, being considered a ‘hate crime’...and costing people money, jobs, and jail time.


32 posted on 03/15/2019 7:56:03 AM PDT by BobL (I eat at McDonald's and shop at Walmart - I just don't tell anyone.)
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To: Navy Patriot

This is a false flag all the way. This nut’s original posting was all about socialism. NZ was one of the “Five Eyes” trying to take out Trump. Hillary was just there. All the testimony is now coming out. The house Dems are going under and under fire for anti-semetic hatred. The Mueller report may be a dud. And false flags on U.S. soil are under huge scrutiny by the new media, us. These globalists will stop at nothing.


33 posted on 03/15/2019 7:56:29 AM PDT by VTenigma (The Democrat party is the party of the mathematically challenged)
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To: marron

Read his entire manifesto. He is pretty coherent. Granted he ranges all over the place but his reasoning does follow a very logical path. He mocks Conservatives for failing to conserve anything. He blames Capitalists for placing profit over preservation of Nation. He admires Chinese Communists for their racial cohesion and implacable determination as opposed to “Diversity is our strength” delusion. He quotes Kaddhafi on Islam’s intention to replace Europe’s degenerate, dying culture with a young, vibrant Muslim Caliphate. Outside of murdering 50 people in cold blood he could pretty much be one of us. In his Manifesto he states explicitly that the “thing that turned him” was the murder of the little girl Ebba Aukerland, the 12 year old girl whose body was torn in half by a truck.


34 posted on 03/15/2019 7:57:47 AM PDT by wastoute (Government cannot redistribute wealth. Government can only redistribute poverty.)
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To: odawg

I notice that Breivik isn’t exactly suffering in prison.


35 posted on 03/15/2019 7:57:52 AM PDT by dfwgator (Endut! Hoch Hech!)
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To: ChicagoConservative27

New York Post is at it again, fake news.


36 posted on 03/15/2019 8:00:03 AM PDT by Rappini (Compromise has its place. It's called second.)
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To: ChicagoConservative27

Brenton Tarrant - “4chan” level ‘trolling’ on a deadly scale.

He wanted to stir sh!t up.


37 posted on 03/15/2019 8:01:30 AM PDT by _Jim (Save babies)
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To: ChicagoConservative27

It sounds to me like the global communists and probably the U.S. Socialist democrat Party were pulling this guy’s strings.


38 posted on 03/15/2019 8:03:19 AM PDT by FlingWingFlyer (#NotARussianBot)
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39 posted on 03/15/2019 8:03:29 AM PDT by RushIsMyTeddyBear
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To: ChicagoConservative27
the person that has influenced me above all was Candace Owens,”

I'm starting to see a disturbing pattern here........

40 posted on 03/15/2019 8:03:52 AM PDT by Hot Tabasco (ui)
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