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Posted on 03/12/2019 3:09:57 PM PDT by spintreebob
Offshore outsourcing can be a traumatic event for employees -- both for those who lose their jobs and for those who survive. It's HR's job to figure out the real impact it's having on employees -- a task that may benefit from new technology.
President Donald Trump became a harsh critic of the H-1B program during his campaign for president and invited IT workers who had trained visa-holding replacements to speak at campaign rallies. Trump promised to make changes to the H-1B program, and his administration is now denying roughly one in five of the H-1B visas sought by IT services firms.
But the administration's results are mixed. Offshore outsourcing is still growing, and U.S. businesses are still shifting work overseas.
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Except for the 2012-2016 period, all my time consulting in IT, I have seen projects unable to find enough competent staff. Some projects are fully funded, yet killed for lack of staff. Some projects are shipped to India for the sole reason that they cannot be staffed here.
The economy has hit a ceiling because there are not competent people available.
It’s chicken-and-egg here. People don’t want to train for positions that it’s highly likely they’ll lose to foreigners.
From 1983-2012 and now 2017-19 there has always been a shortage of competent IT workers. It has always been full employment. Only 2012-2016 were times tough.
I don’t see much historical or factual basis for your reasoning. The project I’m on cannot find competent people to staff up. Sister projects run out of the same office of a Fortune 50 IT company cannot find enough competent workers.
It appears H1-Bs somehow get around that, or maybe Tata gives them the relo for the huge mark up they get, while the wage provided is well under the going rate.
From 1983-2012 and now 2017-19 there has always been a shortage of competent IT workers. It has always been full employment. Only 2012-2016 were times tough.
I don’t see much historical or factual basis for your reasoning. The project I’m on cannot find competent people to staff up. Sister projects run out of the same office of a Fortune 50 IT company cannot find enough competent workers.
The Fortune 50 firm my project is with is hiring any competent person they can find... and a few not so competent. They hire local, mostly they draw from the Rust Belt, which does not have the economy of TN, NC, GA, FL, TX. And they hire non-citizens. They hire employees. They bring in contractors. Whatever flavor an applicant wishes to come through.
That's the fighting spirit.
Offer better compensation, training, and/or relocation - even if lower level. If they can do it for India, it can be adapted to citizens.
Shipping off to India still doesn’t make sense when it relies on fraud/abuse.
You are a globalist liar and a POS.
I dare you to post the qualifications that you are looking for and the job description. Also post the starting salary SO WE CAN ALL LAUGH AT YOU AT HOW RIDICULOUS IT ALL IS.
Part of the problem here is that we give a lot of lip service to emphasize the value of STEM fields, but one flaw with STEM fields in general is that they are almost all universal disciplines that can easily be transferred from one country to another. Math, science and engineering don't change when you cross national borders, so they tend to be heavily "commoditized" to the point where it's very hard for someone in these fields to set himself apart from his peers.
There are tens of thousands of great American IT workers who have had their jobs off shored over the past 25 years. They are unmatched in their experience and skills. The issue is not available candidates. The issue is pay.
You are full of bull. Take your H1B hires and shove it.
“From 1983-2012 and now 2017-19 there has always been a shortage of competent IT workers. It has always been full employment. “
That must be why IBM laid me and 1500 other over 55 workers off in one day after forcing us to train our foreign replacement. Just not enough workers right?
The IBM employees on my project over 50 are mostly incompetent. As I joke, They are the ones who give Waterfall a bad name. I’m 75 so I can say it.
There is no distinction between employee on contractor. Whoever can pass the recruiters.... and my manager, the user, who is tired of the incompetents.
A competent person can make at least 100K. Beyond that it is all in negotiating skill. Some people are great negotiators apart from any IT skill. Some people have great IT skill but are lousy negotiators.
I lean a true Capitalist free trader (not a NAFTA/TPP Bush/Clinton fake). So I could be called a globalist. But the other words don’t really fit.
Most IT jobs are not in Silicon Valley.
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