Posted on 03/03/2019 11:31:19 PM PST by ding_dong_daddy_from_dumas
Which of course knowing what we know, what purpose did that FISA warrant serve? Many are answering that the FISA served to cover up the tracks the FBI/CIA of illegal behaviour before the FISA. Sounds reasonable.
You would be correct in arguing the 'Type of FISA warrant' would be sufficient to accomplish the same goal IF IF Carter remained in contact with campaign officials. To date, there seems to be no record of that occuring.
Am following Carter on his twitter account, he is not particularly displaying the characteristics (markers) of an individual who was sent into a campaign to spy.
Suing Oath Inc. (Yahoo and Huffington Post) and Broadcasting Board of Governors (Radio Free Europe) and chasing down death threats with a legitmate legal campaign.
Compare that behaviour with Felix Sater (a known and admitted 20 year FBI source) who testifies next week.
Following this saga since October 2017, many twists and turns nothing surprises me anymore. Trump revealed how deep the corruption is in our bureaucracy and how powerless we are to fix it.
If you are referring to the investigation of McCabe, Strzok, etc that has yet to be done, yes, of course. But the investigation of Trump would have continued under Madame President. Donald and Don Jr would be perp walked by now. Dems in Congress would be fishing through all of the Trump's private records.
Trump would a lesson by the ruling Dem/Rep party to not challenge the establishment.
The FISA court is composed of a bunch of liberals, that wanted to get Trump as much as the crooked fbi and doj and don't give a fat rat's ass about stupid things, like, the law.
We all know that the liberal judges on SCOTUS never look at facts, because like all good comrades, they vote as a bloc.
The 9th circus is a joke, but is just a reflection of the rest of the court system.
Why should we expect anything different from the FISA court, a court that by definition, has most of it's decisions, hidden from public review? It is probably more corrupt the the 9th circus.
Do you believe nothing is happening?
There are investigations that are ongoing that are keeping out of the media. How much reporting have you heard from the OIG investigation?
The Muller report will be published and then the tide will turn.
Does your dope come across the southern border or are you using doc scripts? Cause if you ain't high, you should be.
Necessary but not sufficient. The clasified documents will lack specificity and details. Some contacts with Mifsud will be undocumented. There are others like Clinton's Australian diplomat friend who were scrubbed clean all along. There are thousands of undocumented or poorly documented deep staters and complexity that won't be explainable.
What the situation needs is a body with investigatory powers.
I believe Q is real.
I believe that people have been fired (FBI, DOJ, etc.)
But my Outrage Fatigue is at an all time high, and I am sick and tired of yet another news story that tells us even more about the Crimes, Sedition, Treason, Corruption, Rape, Pedophilia, Slavery, etc. - and no one has been arrested or charged yet.
I have been following Q since he started posting. I believe it's all true. But Q admitted he was playing the Anons on the time lines for arrests and other matters to throw off the enemy. "Disinformation." OK, I understand that. I am a retired military officer.
So is Q bloviating now about the latest "countdown"?
Maybe we'll get another "BOOM BOOM BOOM!"
Here's what I think we'll get. Some declassification of FISA, which will make some people very happy when it is disclosed, but after a few days, it will fade and have as much long-term impact as the House's declassification of the vaunted 4 page "Memo."
McCabe, Comey, Obama, Hillary, Ohr, Strzok, Page, Brennan, Powers, Lynch, Holder, Clapper - they all belong in leg irons, wearing orange jump suits, and residing at GITMO.
Yesterday.
I won't get my hopes up too much.
Why didn’t the FBI give a defensive briefing to candidate Trump that they suspected his campaign was being infiltrated by the Russians? We all know why. This was a setup by Deep State at the behest of the Obama Administration to spy on a political opponent and then, if he won, to frame him and remove him from office.
MAYBE Page quit because he decided that Trump was NO COLLUDING with the Russians, and didn’t want anything to do with thw COUP anymore......what do you think?
Little to nothing is happening. There are no criminal investigations. Without criminal investigations, nobody will give any evidence. On the other hand even a criminal investigation won't reveal all the deep state corruption. That's because it is mostly covered with nods and winks and untraceable communications.
I would for example be interested in a real criminal indictment against Strzok. He was supposedly a Russian expert in his counterintelligence role. I would like to see him indicted as a Russian agent working against many patriotic Americans including Trump. That would require tearing open every case he ever worked on and looking for the connections.
That obviously won't happen. On the other hand I know we can't devolve into an extra-judicial banana republic just because we don't like Strzok (and he hates us). The USA is going down, but tit for tat extra-judicial proceedings or activities will turn us into a banana republic very quickly.
So the best we can hope at this point IMO is the publication of as many facts as possible and a clear explanation to tie it all together. That could be done with a panel with subpoena powers. In that case nobody will go to jail.
I’m with you on this. 100%
I agree with you on Page. His lack of outrage about the FISA warrant and not hiring a lawyer are tells. Despite being a central figure in the dossier along with Manafort and Cohen, Page was never charged with anything.
Page’s play acting of the affable fool belied his resume that included being a USNA grad and a naval intelligence officer for four years. His work as an international banker could very well have been deep cover for a CIA intelligence operative ala Valerie Plame. The strange case of Carter Page has escaped the scrutiny it deserves.
But from listening to Page he realized the mistake of pumping his Russian connections in 2013 and pointed out the violations of his 4th amendment rights. When you have Russian contacts you can expect some surveillance and Page acknowledged that he knew about that. But the topics are important. There are many academic contacts of no national security importance. OTOH getting $140M from Russian connected sources like the Clintons did can certainly have national security implications.
The people were misled when McCabe swore to defend the US Constitution against all enemies.
See my post #33. IMO Page was part of the set up. The failed FISA warrant in July 2016 raises questions as to when the infiltration of the Trump campaign really began. Page and Papadopoulos were named foreign policy advisors to the Trump campaign in March 2016. This is when the pretext for spying on the Trump campaign began.
The dossier claimed that the Russians had been grooming Trump for five years, i.e., back to 2011. Coincidentally, 2011 is when Trump forced Obama to disclose his phony long form birth certificate. I suspect that the Obama Administration had the FBI open a file on Trump. It wouldn’t surprise me that Nellie Ohr gained access to that information and fed it to Steele and Simpson. Obama had a deep personal animus towards birther Trump and constantly attacked Trump at many public gatherings including at the infamous WH correspondents dinner in 2011 at which Trump was present. Obama and Hillary wanted to destroy Trump, not just beat him in an election.
McCabe is either blissfully ignorant of law, or is as corrupt as he!!. I believe it is the latter. Of course the judges were 'satisfied' with the warrant since it contained numerous lies of omission. No one could rise as high as he did in the FBI with the intelligence and naivety McCabe professes. I believe the head, and the entire executive staff of the Obama administration was (is) corrupt.
The strategy of Obama was to infiltrate the Trump organization to find and expose corruption there. Obama ASSUMED that all political organizations were as corrupt as his own. When corruption wasn't found, they simply 'created' it by planting false corruption through Page, Papadopoulos, and the "Dossier".
To me, this makes Obama, Lynch, Clapper, Brennan, Rice, Power, and even lackeys like McCabe and the rest of the staff, GUILTY OF TREASON.
They are and in a just World would be hanged by the neck until dead. However, the World we live in is controlled by Communists, so they are heroes.
I totally forgot Carter Page did NOT HIRE AN ATTORNEY!! THAT is a TELL for sure!! And NOT being CHARGED....hmmmm.. I wonder if DEVIN NUNES KNOWS Page was a SPY put in by the DEEP STATE......hmmmm.
It was not till I read his congressional testimony, did I change my mind about Carter. The only reason why he was not arrested for lying as everyone else had at that point because he figured how to answer the questions without being trapped. It was most annoying to read, but very effective. He 'qualified' every answer with long drawn out 'in context' answers.
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