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America's Second Civil War Has Already Begun
The American Thinker ^ | 1 Mar 19 | William L. Gensert

Posted on 03/01/2019 10:54:52 AM PST by xzins

When Obama went on his world apology tour, he wasn’t apologizing for America, he was apologizing for Americans. This is the essence of this second civil war. Leftists are demi-gods who believe they are America and that anyone who does not believe in them cannot lay legitimate claim to this country as their own.

Yes, this war has begun. The opening skirmish was the Obama presidency itself,

The war’s second battle was the 2016 presidential election when Hillary Clinton, Obama’s chosen successor, lost to a television personality

Trump’s presidency has been the third battle and with his string of successes, the battle is being won. This, despite near-universal acrimony and condemnation among the media, the Democrats, and the left.

This is a war of attrition and we Americans are being attrited.

For example, their “open borders” policy is effectively importing a new electorate -- one guaranteed to vote for them. The left agrees with Obama, there is nothing wrong with America, it’s those damn Americans, so they are going to drown the conservative vote with new Democrats.

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Many of those empowered to confiscate weapons won’t obey orders. Defections will be common and there will be fighting in the streets, limited at first, but it will soon break out into open rebellion. The regime will become increasingly strident and many states will refuse to comply. Using Democratic-run “sanctuary cities” as an example of state nullification of federal law, talk of secession will become rife.

The ruling leftists will, of course, be surprised, and orders will be given to the remaining loyalist forces to put down the rebellion. In the end, the death toll will far exceed the 620,000 people who died in our first civil war.

It can’t happen here? Open your eyes, it has already begun.

(Excerpt) Read more at americanthinker.com ...


TOPICS: Editorial; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: america; banglist; civilwar; cw2; cwii; cwiiping; democrats
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To: Brooklyn Attitude

They realize it they simply rolled over & surrendered 30+ years ago when Pat Bucannon was telling of the culture war that was going on & the GOP told him to STFU &go away ! The republicans used to be reliably anti communist now they just want to go along to get along.


61 posted on 03/01/2019 1:22:25 PM PST by Nebr FAL owner (Treason is the reason for De mocrat Sedition & Subversion)
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To: billorites

Thanks. I will be checking it out later.


62 posted on 03/01/2019 1:35:09 PM PST by waterhill (I Shall Remain, in spite of __________.)
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To: Ajnin

Bless its heart....


63 posted on 03/01/2019 1:38:56 PM PST by waterhill (I Shall Remain, in spite of __________.)
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To: gaijin

OUR side IS simply too cowardly to take the field or simply refusing to acknowledge that dems and the left and the deep state elites and most all in govt are ass holes and are coming for us!!!.


64 posted on 03/01/2019 1:40:59 PM PST by ldish (Have had enough...you??????)
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To: xzins

The old “door to door” strategy is so 1990s.

They’ll make it interesting - but I won’t post what could be done (and probably will be) as hearts might fail.


65 posted on 03/01/2019 1:50:37 PM PST by Roman_War_Criminal (Like Enoch, Noah, & Lot, the True Church will soon be removed & then destruction comes forth.)
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To: xzins

Politicians are only the ugly face of tyranny. The real leftist tryants reside in the court systems and state and federal bureaucracies. The left in this country has always been more comfortable using/abusing these institutions to accomplish their aim of eliminating opposition. Leftist law enforcement in democrat strongholds will be the muscle. While all this is going on, the media will provide cover stories and news blackouts to keep the public uniformed and distracted when people are “diasappeared”.

Any effective resistance for conservatives will require good alternative communications to identify enemy bureaucrats, judges, and their allied law enforcement (for offensive and defensive purposes) as well as rally points, safe houses and home territory.

As far as the military is concerned, the leftists probably have some plan to divert them into a foreign intervention while retaining a home contingent loyal to their cause.


66 posted on 03/01/2019 1:53:08 PM PST by grumpygresh (The only check on a rogue DOJ and FBI is jury nullification.)
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To: tet68

Most Americans (including me) are way too soft for anything to do with a real war.

They care way too much about their ice cream, Youtube, McDonalds, Kardashians, and Dancing with the Stars to ever take up arms over ANYTHING.

It just isn’t going to happen.


67 posted on 03/01/2019 1:54:45 PM PST by skinndogNN
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To: blueunicorn6
If you mean,who lives the theory of the Socialists Lifestyle? None of them.

The Leader of the Socialists, usually the one who has killed all his competitors, lives high on the hog. He usually has several layers of underlings whom he allows to live less affluent lives than he. The peons hunt grasshoppers and a rat to roast for meals and if they are lucky they beat off the lions, and tigers that come into their huts to make to make a meal out of them. If they happen to be unlucky and end up in the lion's stomach, well it just wasn't their day.

68 posted on 03/01/2019 2:01:12 PM PST by sport
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To: Lurkinanloomin

“ALL of our elected and appointed ignored the Constitution.

As we found out, an usurper has no need to follow rules, laws or constitutions.”

Absolutely. And if we don’t want it to happen again, we had better keep screaming it to all as long as we can, no matter how many want to avoid it. There is not a single jot, tittle, comma or period of the constitution that was meant to be superfluous. Much less one so vital to assuring the integrity of the presidency.


69 posted on 03/01/2019 2:17:42 PM PST by DMZFrank
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To: 1Old Pro

“This reminds me to buy more ammo.”

It’s about time we stop repeating this phrase just to make ourselves feel better. I know, I do it myself quite often. I’ve reached an Ammo count where I should feel better, but I don’t! Who amongst really believes that when the “time comes”, we will be on our front doorstep, adeptly mowing down the invaders as we call for “more ammo”? Does any student of history really believe this? This is an INCREMENTAL war of inches, Demographics and Brainwashing that we are losing! It is NOT a Frontal Invasion! There will be no heroic “moment” when we stand our ground against the enemy. It will come when we drive home from work one day, or are mowing our lawn! Does anyone out there get it?


70 posted on 03/01/2019 2:34:00 PM PST by NYAmerican
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To: tet68
In the end, the death toll will far exceed the 620,000 people who died in our first civil war. I have seen estimates 3 to 5 times that number.

Let's look only at modern history, and only at Leftist takeovers. In most cases, they eliminate the segments of the population that weren't fervently enough behind them and/or refuse to cowtow to them after they take power. In Laos, it was 25% of the Hmong. In China, "In official study materials published in 1948, Mao envisaged that "one-tenth of the peasants" (or about 50,000,000) "would have to be destroyed" to facilitate agrarian reform.[137]" -Wikipedia. That's about 5% of China at that time.

A "low" figure of 5% in the US would equate to 15 million people today. Why make the same mistake as the Left, and presume that "this time it will be different"? (And... I wouldn't count on a "low" figure, since our side will NOT be disarmed.)

China: 40,000,000 (4%)
Soviet Union: 20,000,000 (18%)
North Korea: 3,000,000 (16%)
Ethiopia: 2,000,000 (4%)
Cambodia: 1,700,000 (13%)
Vietnam: 365,000 (after 1975)
Yugoslavia: 175,000
East Germany: 100,000
Romania: 100,000
North Vietnam: 50,000 (internally, 1954-75)
Cuba: 50,000
Mongolia: 35,000
Poland: 30,000
Bulgaria: 20,000
Czechoslovakia: 11,000
Albania: 5,000
Hungary: 5,000

NOTE: These counts are "only" from execution, labor camps, famine, and ethnic cleansing... it does not include internment, escape, or death from eventual decay.

White, Matthew (2011), Atrocities: The 100 Deadliest Episodes in Human History, W. W. Norton & Company, ISBN 978-0-393-08192-3

71 posted on 03/01/2019 3:00:32 PM PST by Teacher317 (We have now sunk to a depth at which restatement of the obvious is the first duty of intelligent men)
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To: shanover

This is the most rational post yet.


72 posted on 03/01/2019 3:09:19 PM PST by Jonny7797
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To: gaijin

Agree with you but hope the other side doesn’t feel the same. Envision Pres Cortez.


73 posted on 03/01/2019 3:23:16 PM PST by sanjuanbob
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To: NYAmerican

Well said. It’ll be too late at that time.


74 posted on 03/01/2019 3:31:55 PM PST by sanjuanbob
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To: xzins
I didn't read the article, so forgive me for commenting.

This is not even close to civil war, but it is the most uncivil discourse from the most uncivil people (leftists) I have seen in my lifetime. More properly, it's a cold civil war, one of information battles. The one side has all the main media centers on their side. They also have google, Twitter and facebook. Almost total power.

Yet they are losing. I think they are losing because they have become arrogant, drunk on power. They think they can say and do anything, so they are sloppy, and they lie a lot. With all this power, they do not hold the high ground.

We have the high ground. We are winning because the truth is on our side. Plus we have tens of thousands of people who know how to dig out the truth and how to pass it on.

75 posted on 03/01/2019 3:34:03 PM PST by Lakeshark (Trump. He stands for the great issues of the day. Stay the course!)
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To: Lakeshark

The things that make me think it is war

1. Shootings of police officers
2. Antifa and other violence against conservatives go unanswered by justice system
3. Violent street demonstrations
4. Infiltration of the country by cartel armies
5. Kavenaugh type smearing by press and politically powerful
6. Renegade intel services aligned with one of the parties and scheming to deny justice


76 posted on 03/01/2019 4:24:31 PM PST by xzins (Retired US Army chaplain. Support our troops by praying for their victory.)
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To: Pelham

There is a test that can’t be faked very easily. We use it when granting security clearances.


77 posted on 03/01/2019 4:30:42 PM PST by xzins (Retired US Army chaplain. Support our troops by praying for their victory.)
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To: tet68

The culture war in china in 1966 resulted in the deaths of thirty million people. It also retarded the country and it took fifty years to recover.


78 posted on 03/01/2019 4:35:51 PM PST by vannrox (The Preamble to the Bill of Rights - without it, our Bill of Rights is meaningless!)
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To: xzins
That's chaos. Not war.

Perhaps it's a precursor to war.

War is a concerted effort, not chaos. The left is not yet capable of a concerted effort. They will lose, and lose fast, if they bring this to a hot civil war rather than stay in this cold one of dueling narratives.

Just my 2 cents.

79 posted on 03/01/2019 4:51:31 PM PST by Lakeshark (Trump. He stands for the great issues of the day. Stay the course!)
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To: Brooklyn Attitude
I wish that was the case. It seems republicans don’t care as they really support the other side. The few conservatives that exist don’t have the numbers. Institutionally thinking of political, social and educational infrastruction the racist, regressive fascist left owns it all.
80 posted on 03/01/2019 5:07:07 PM PST by Badboo (Why it is important)
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