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1 posted on 02/20/2019 6:54:37 AM PST by sukhoi-30mki
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To: sukhoi-30mki

Good job!


2 posted on 02/20/2019 6:55:45 AM PST by PIF (They came for me and mine ... now it is your turn ...)
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To: sukhoi-30mki
Stop wasting ammo. 👹👍🏼🇺🇸
3 posted on 02/20/2019 6:55:56 AM PST by rktman ( #My2ndAmend! ----- Enlisted in the Navy in '67 to protect folks rights to strip my rights. WTH?)
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To: sukhoi-30mki

I think it was President Jelly Jar that axed these ships


4 posted on 02/20/2019 6:59:03 AM PST by Fai Mao (There is no rule of law in the US until The PIAPS is executed.)
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To: sukhoi-30mki

So, rail guns aren’t going to sea in the near future - at least with the US Navy.


5 posted on 02/20/2019 6:59:19 AM PST by mad_as_he$$
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To: sukhoi-30mki

Update the Fletcher class.


6 posted on 02/20/2019 7:01:54 AM PST by 2ndDivisionVet (You can't invade the mainland US. There'd be a rifle behind every blade of grass.)
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To: sukhoi-30mki
"...the 30mm cannons will help the Zumwalt class put up some defense against potential small boat attacks..."

So, it's not totally helpless....

8 posted on 02/20/2019 7:02:26 AM PST by Psalm 73 ("I will now proceed to entangle the entire area".)
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To: sukhoi-30mki

I watched them test the 30mm guns on TV. One of them failed (needed a replacement part for the mount). The other one was dead on.


10 posted on 02/20/2019 7:05:21 AM PST by SJSAMPLE
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To: sukhoi-30mki

What members of Congress supported this boondoggle?


11 posted on 02/20/2019 7:06:38 AM PST by FranklinsTower
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To: sukhoi-30mki

Another gubment blunderfest. Does anyone ever get punished enough to make others pay more attention to their work? It can’t all be blamed on the capriciousness of politicians and appropriations.


13 posted on 02/20/2019 7:10:00 AM PST by Sequoyah101 (It feels like we have exchanged our dreams for survival. We just hava few days that don't suck.)
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To: sukhoi-30mki

They damn well better focus on the stealth. Because if someone knows they are there they sure as hell can’t shoot their way out if it.

Besides, these days with women drivers crashing them into tankers, instead of stealth they really need radar reflectors, a rotating beacon and a dayglow orange paint job.


14 posted on 02/20/2019 7:10:59 AM PST by DesertRhino (Dog is man's best friend, and moslems hate dogs. Add that up. ....)
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To: sukhoi-30mki

——prove itself to be hugely capable ——

capable of what? what purpose will the vessel serve?


17 posted on 02/20/2019 7:14:31 AM PST by bert ( (KE. N.P. N.C. +12) Honduras must be invaded to protect America from invasion)
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To: sukhoi-30mki

Can we say “gunboat”? A very expensive one.


20 posted on 02/20/2019 7:29:11 AM PST by wetgundog (CNN is FAKE NEWS ...Just added NBC.)
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To: sukhoi-30mki

Here’s a question for you armament experts. Do the forces ever try to standardize their guns and ammo across the board, in order to cut costs and simplify systems?

For instance, you’ve got the 30mm round used by the A10 Thunderbolt. Could they use the same round for navy applications, and for the AC-130 gunship operated by SpecOps?

The Bradley has the 25mm in its main gun. Do they use it for other apps?

And in this latest big money flub by the Navy on the main gun in this article, couldn’t they use an existing round that the Army or Marines use, like the 155 or the 120 out of the Abrams?

It seems like we could save money and simplify by making common rounds that can be used by various platforms.


22 posted on 02/20/2019 7:40:42 AM PST by lurk
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To: sukhoi-30mki

no CIWS?


24 posted on 02/20/2019 7:46:21 AM PST by central_va (I won't be reconstructed and I do not give a damn)
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To: sukhoi-30mki

Personally, I like the Navy’s Sea Hunter autonomous ship. It is 132 feet long and has a range of 10,000 nautical miles. It also costs 1/7th the amount of most other ships to operate. Although the 4 ships that they have are unarmed, they will probably be outfitted with ASW gear and some kind of surface weapon(s) when they finish their 2 years of sea trials.


28 posted on 02/20/2019 8:01:06 AM PST by BuffaloJack (Chivalry is not dead. It is a warriors code and only practiced by warriors.)
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To: sukhoi-30mki

Stealthy, yes - but ...

Is she safe from Japanese Cargo vessels?

More pointedly, what good is a “stealthy” warship, if the Navy cannot manage to bring onboard actual sailors to man her, rather than incompetent bridge personnel - hired to fill some affirmative action quota?


30 posted on 02/20/2019 8:20:40 AM PST by JME_FAN (If you lived here, you'd be home by now.)
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To: sukhoi-30mki

Based on the photos it only has a single helo hanger - even my OHP frigate had hanger space for 2 and this thing is huge in comparison. It does tell me though that they are treating it like a cruiser with no attention to Anti-sub duties whatsoever.

Anyone know if it even has a tail (towed passive sonar)?

I’m all for stealth and guns - but it’s a multi-dimensional theater out there.


31 posted on 02/20/2019 8:38:10 AM PST by reed13k (For evil to triumph it is only necessary that good men do nothing)
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To: sukhoi-30mki

The stealth didn’t work, you can see it really easily.


32 posted on 02/20/2019 9:19:18 AM PST by pepsi_junkie
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To: sukhoi-30mki

Why brand a ship with the name of the worst Chief of Naval Operations in American Naval history?


34 posted on 02/20/2019 11:52:49 AM PST by Midwesterner53
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