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Justice Clarence Thomas calls for reconsideration of landmark libel case
MSN / CNN ^ | February 19, 2019

Posted on 02/19/2019 10:21:17 AM PST by SMGFan

Supreme Court Justice Clarence Thomas on Tuesday called for reconsideration of a landmark First Amendment precedent, criticizing the 1964 decision that the Constitution creates a higher barrier for public figures to claim libel.

Thomas wrote alongside a court decision not to take up the case of a woman who accused Bill Cosby of sexual misconduct in 2014. He suggested that the seminal case New York Times v. Sullivan, holding that public figures have a higher burden to prove libel, was wrongly decided.

"New York Times and the Court's decisions extending it were policy-driven decisions masquerading as constitutional law," Thomas wrote.

"If the Constitution does not require public figures to satisfy an actual-malice standard in state-law defamation suits, then neither should we," the opinion states.

He continued, saying "We did not begin meddling in this area until 1964, nearly 175 years after the First Amendment was ratified. The States are perfectly capable of striking an acceptable balance between encouraging robust public discourse and providing a meaningful remedy for reputational harm. We should reconsider our jurisprudence in this area."

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1 posted on 02/19/2019 10:21:17 AM PST by SMGFan
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To: SMGFan

brilliant!!!


2 posted on 02/19/2019 10:25:33 AM PST by Mr. K (No consequence of repealing Obamacare is worse than Obamacare itself.)
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To: SMGFan

So I guess He does not think that you should even be able to criticize people running for office?


3 posted on 02/19/2019 10:27:14 AM PST by Revel
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To: SMGFan

and timely

This is the defense the major media have for sliming Trump at every opportunity, with impunity.

This is how they can get away with it

It SHOULD BE illegal for media to lie about someone- especially when it ruins their lives.

Especially when they know it is a lie, but report it anyway, but claim ‘they had no malicious intent’ (how do you prove a thought crime)

Media should have a HIGHER standard, not a lower one.


4 posted on 02/19/2019 10:27:54 AM PST by Mr. K (No consequence of repealing Obamacare is worse than Obamacare itself.)
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To: Revel

You missed the point completely - it is the opposite of what you are thinking.


5 posted on 02/19/2019 10:28:21 AM PST by Mr. K (No consequence of repealing Obamacare is worse than Obamacare itself.)
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To: SMGFan
the 1964 decision that the Constitution creates a higher barrier for public figures to claim libel.

The Warren Court decided that there was no equal protection under the law.

6 posted on 02/19/2019 10:30:57 AM PST by Cowboy Bob ("Other People's Money" = The life blood of Liberalism)
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To: Revel

You could still criticize them. But may you couldn’t lie about them....


7 posted on 02/19/2019 10:32:17 AM PST by kjam22
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To: SMGFan

Times v. Sullivan went too far, has led to much abuse...
(as we can see in our public square today)

I wonder if the SCt could fix it, it will take either some very fine tuning (something the SCt is notoriously poor at, such as Roe v. Wade)...
or else, just dropping the SCt’s innovation about public figures having less protection against libel, than anybody else

we will see...


8 posted on 02/19/2019 10:32:55 AM PST by faithhopecharity (“Politicians arent born, they’re excreted.” Marcus Tullius Cicero (106 to 43 BCE))
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To: Revel

Let the facts you have support your criticism. The harsher the criticism, the more damning your facts should be.


9 posted on 02/19/2019 10:33:53 AM PST by BradyLS (DO NOT FEED THE BEARS!)
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To: Mr. K

I love me some Supreme Court Justice Clarence Thomas!!


10 posted on 02/19/2019 10:36:58 AM PST by Tell It Right (1st Thessalonians 5:21 -- Put everything to the test, hold fast to that which is true.)
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To: SMGFan

I’ve ALWAYS loved Justice Thomas. And he has NEVER betrayed us, his principles or the US Constitution.


11 posted on 02/19/2019 10:43:47 AM PST by House Atreides (Boycott the NFL 100% — PERMANENT)
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To: Revel

criticism is not defamation.

i do not like his socialism is different than that rat bastard is a socialist...

thomas is right.


12 posted on 02/19/2019 10:44:40 AM PST by teeman8r (Armageddon won't be pretty, but it's not like it's the end of the world.)
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To: Revel

Normally only the deity gets the capitalized pronoun, but you’ve got it backwards.


13 posted on 02/19/2019 10:48:11 AM PST by bigbob (Trust Trump. Trust the Plan.)
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To: Revel

No, he thinks lying about public figures should not be protected as it is since 1964.


14 posted on 02/19/2019 10:48:15 AM PST by CodeToad ( Hating on Trump is hating on me and America!.)
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To: Revel

As usual, Justice Thomas is right on the money. You might agree that it’s a great idea to have a different libel standard for public figures than private individuals. That’s fine, but don’t mistake a policy preference with something that the Constitution requires. There’s no language in the Constitutional that requires bifurcating libel laws depending on whether the plaintiff is public or private. in fact, the equal protection clause would suggest that libel laws should be applied in an evenhanded way without reference to the plaintiff’s fame.


15 posted on 02/19/2019 10:50:10 AM PST by irishjuggler
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To: Revel

Legitimate criticism and opinion isn’t and has never been libel. New York Times v. Sullivan didn’t change anything there.

The media have gone off the rails, and they have been hiding behind New York Times v. Sullivan in order to make up lies (they have actual malice, it just can’t be proven) and carry the Democrat’s water for them.

New York Times v. Sullivan should be overturned. It was bad law then, and it created the media that we have today.


16 posted on 02/19/2019 11:01:17 AM PST by TexasGurl24
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To: Revel

There is a difference between criticizing and made up slander.
The ‘64 ruling gave anyone the right to slander politicians.


17 posted on 02/19/2019 11:04:08 AM PST by Zathras
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To: SMGFan

He’s right. It’s not right that if you are a so-called “public figure” which apparently means anyone who isn’t totally anonymous, the anyone can make up any scurrilous accusation about you and get away with smearing you and your reputation sans consequences under the protection of the courts. It doesn’t seem like equal protection under the law to me.


18 posted on 02/19/2019 11:04:24 AM PST by pepsi_junkie
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To: CodeToad

Do you know how many people here on FR could end up being sued every time they repeated some criticism about some politician or other public figure.

But it is often necessary to repeat such information in order to start the debate on proving or disproving the information. When people fear starting a discussion then there will be no search for the truth.

Most people are smart enough to know that Allegations against politicians are a dime a dozen, and need to be proved before taken seriously.

Now if you can prove that allegation was made while the perpetrator knew it was false. Then that might be different.


19 posted on 02/19/2019 11:07:11 AM PST by Revel
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To: SMGFan

It is not just the media that hides behind Sullivan. Internet discussion boards also have protection.

If public figures can sue the media for libel, can they also sue commenters on political discussion boards.


20 posted on 02/19/2019 11:14:46 AM PST by FewsOrange
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