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Military Computer Hacker Proves A “Space Force” Existed Long Before Donald Trump
Collective Evolution ^ | 7feb19 | Arjun Walia

Posted on 02/07/2019 5:18:09 AM PST by vannrox

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To: zeugma

Besides the fact it’s not as profitable.


61 posted on 02/07/2019 8:57:52 AM PST by Openurmind
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To: null and void

Oh absolutely... No profit in it.


62 posted on 02/07/2019 8:59:03 AM PST by Openurmind
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To: vannrox
Remember the Phoenix UFO incident witnessed by 20,000 people in 1997? Kurt Russell saw it from his airplane and talks about it in this video.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eSuLklT4lss
63 posted on 02/07/2019 9:07:49 AM PST by dainbramaged (If you want a friend, rescue a pit bull.)
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To: dainbramaged

Happened to be there during that. One of many over the years. Are they real? Yes... What are they for sure? Not for sure yet.


64 posted on 02/07/2019 9:11:42 AM PST by Openurmind
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To: NorthMountain

Thank you for posting that!


65 posted on 02/07/2019 9:21:33 AM PST by redgolum
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To: zeugma
An airship could do it.

That's why I specified solid.

Such a craft might not fit other rumored flight characteristics.

No kidding? What have we got that does?

Bueller? Bueller? Bueller?

66 posted on 02/07/2019 9:29:48 AM PST by null and void (Adrenochrome. The Whore of Babylon, drunk on the blood of saints.)
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To: vannrox

Hopefully all the people who thought this info should be kept secret will start dying off soon.

But Nazi Pelosi has been in office since before I can remember... so who knows.


67 posted on 02/07/2019 9:31:41 AM PST by Mr. K (No consequence of repealing Obamacare is worse than Obamacare itself.)
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To: zeugma

That too!


68 posted on 02/07/2019 9:32:00 AM PST by null and void (Adrenochrome. The Whore of Babylon, drunk on the blood of saints.)
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To: reed13k

I have seen the argument made that a Space Force should actually be under the Navy, as the Navy has far more experience with long-duration missions in enclosed environments (i.e. nuclear subs) and designing the logistics to support such missions.


69 posted on 02/07/2019 9:59:48 AM PST by Wonder Warthog (The Hog of Steel and NRA Life Member)
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To: null and void
No kidding? What have we got that does?

Nothing in the open literature that I'm aware of. I figure if Janes had come up with something I'd have heard about it.

70 posted on 02/07/2019 10:04:46 AM PST by zeugma (Power without accountability is fertilizer for tyranny.)
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To: zeugma

Should you hear, please let me know!


71 posted on 02/07/2019 10:08:07 AM PST by null and void (Adrenochrome. The Whore of Babylon, drunk on the blood of saints.)
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To: ClearCase_guy

Ah yes, the usual ridicule from someone who is either working to blunt the truth or too ignorant and lazy to do the research which proves the governments of the world are very involved with the phenomena and ET presence.


72 posted on 02/07/2019 10:08:56 AM PST by MHGinTN (A dispensation perspective is a powerful tool for discernment)
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To: Openurmind

Eggs Ackley ... the petro dollar cartel has trillions to lose if zero point energy can be given to the public, so it is kept higher than top secret. UFOs that I have seen are not running on gasoline or diesel ...


73 posted on 02/07/2019 10:21:11 AM PST by MHGinTN (A dispensation perspective is a powerful tool for discernment)
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To: Wonder Warthog

McKennon found ‘ships’ not listed in public Naval records, and naval officers not in the records. People were being paid and supplies requisitioned for these ‘naval’ operations.


74 posted on 02/07/2019 10:27:46 AM PST by MHGinTN (A dispensation perspective is a powerful tool for discernment)
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To: Wonder Warthog

I have as well (USNA ‘89 here so I’ve heard it a lot).

I think though that with Subs, surface, air, marines (which includes embassy security), and a lot of research & weather stuff - the Naval Secretary has sufficient on his plate.

Air Force has dealt with more of the ballistic issues on the rocket side and has handled the space command for some time. I think it would be appropriate for the civilian component to handle it.

I’d like to see a lot of the arctic/anartic and other research stuff move over to the army and out of the other military secretaries - since they are mainly land based. Army should be handling the land based missions in that regard.


75 posted on 02/07/2019 10:46:20 AM PST by reed13k (For evil to triumph it is only necessary that good men do nothing)
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To: null and void

Reduction in sound has been going on for decades. One’ ability to determine speed and altitude from a ground position are notoriously bad


76 posted on 02/07/2019 12:00:26 PM PST by Nifster (I see puppy dogs in the clouds)
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To: reed13k
"Air Force has dealt with more of the ballistic issues on the rocket side and has handled the space command for some time. I think it would be appropriate for the civilian component to handle it."

Which is fine as long as you are talking about getting through the atmosphere and into orbit. However, the "next step out"..long duration missions past lunar orbit, the Navy's expertise is unique and based on literally centuries of experience.

77 posted on 02/07/2019 12:02:47 PM PST by Wonder Warthog (The Hog of Steel and NRA Life Member)
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To: null and void
There is a 'technology' called Zero Point which does not refer to the generation of energy, rather a method of propulsion.
Zero Point - Classified Anti Gravity Craft - UFO Full Documentary by James Allen R.I.P. - 1 hr 32 min
78 posted on 02/07/2019 12:45:46 PM PST by PIF (They came for me and mine ... now it is your turn ...)
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To: null and void

I have never seen a UFO. My brother and some of his friends were coming home from church one Sunday evening in the summer and it was still daylight and saw a cigar shaped craft silently moving down a mountain range in our small town. Thing is a deacons wife at our church and many others in our small town all saw the same craft at the same time and many reported it to the police department. My brother was not one to jumped the gun on the UFO thing.

Growing up at the time of the Apollo program my Dad had a keen interest in astronomy and many nights took us out with his telescope viewing the stars and planets and would show us aircraft, even he Goodyear blimp on one occassion and satellites passing over, even spotted weather balloons. He actually found a downed weather balloon once and turned it back in to the government. So whatever this craft was it was big, did not move at a great speed and was silent. Was it a government craft, maybe, he didn’t know, just that it was not normal and he could not identify it.

I had an uncle who was a cop in Dayton Ohio in the 60’s and him and his partner were doing a walk around of a closed industrial plant one night around 2:00am just a security check and they turned the corner around a building and he said there was a straight up flying saucer right out of the movies just hovering over the edge of Wright-Pat which butted up against the property they were checking. He said it hovered for a minute or so and shot straight up. He said he looked at his partner and said did you see anything? No the guy replied. Neither did I my uncle said back and they got in their cruiser and left. He never made any other claims about UFO’s just that one incident.


79 posted on 02/07/2019 1:11:41 PM PST by sarge83
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To: JME_FAN
1. You don't have to believe in extraterrestrials to read about what other people think. I don't believe in peanut butter, but there are people making sandwiches out of the stuff, so maybe there is something to it.

2. The United States was founded as a Republic, and turned into a Democracy by the 12th and 17th amendments. Today it is more a kin to being a Democracy than a Republic. Read about it ...


80 posted on 02/07/2019 4:30:58 PM PST by vannrox (The Preamble to the Bill of Rights - without it, our Bill of Rights is meaningless!)
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