Posted on 02/04/2019 11:50:59 PM PST by vannrox
I would love to see everyone of these progressive carbon units tried and if found guilty of sedition, treason understand the folly of their stand.
Big cities only?
Just run whackjob leftist candidates, like in Holland, the Greens, the Animal Rights, the Asparagus, the Bicycle party... and watch them dilute their votes into nothing.
Thanks vannrox.
if the Demwits actually manage to get this passed in the requisite number of states, it will nearly guarantee that they’ll find it difficult to win the White House, because voters in large, heavily blue states who normally are undermotivated to show up on election day because they can’t win locally (or are convinced they can’t) know that their Presidential ballots will be that much more important. Over time, this will drive votes onto the lower ballot.
a one page explanation:
https://www.nationalpopularvote.com/sites/default/files/1-pager-npv-v171-2018-7-3.pdf
‘The Colorado senate may as well hold their breath underwater for sixty ninety years, they can’t change the American Constifution.’
think so...? just 89 more EV’s, and this will become the law of the land, unless SCOTUS scuttles it, which it will not...
‘all the liberal States he lost who pass this thing will have to award him their Electoral College votes after all.’
uh, no...
‘Under this scheme it’s possible for Colorado to award its electoral votes to a candidate who did not win a majority in their state.’
that possibility has always been there, though quite obviously never realized, as it would result in chaos in a state whose electors bucked the majority...
‘Colorado would push it to 181.’
they need 89 more votes; I see Delaware, New Mexico, Minnesota and Oregon signing on; that’s 25 more, so they’d be 64 short...not likely to get to it...
Why vote? Colorado should just say the votes go to the Democrats.
‘This will last until the first time a republican wins the popular vote then they will reverse it’
this last happened in 2004, and then just by three million votes...that was three elections ago, and the intervening years have not been kind to the ‘pubs as to the electorate mix...if Clinton hadn’t strong armed the dems into rigging her nomination, Biden could have run, and likely would have won both PA and MI...
‘Legalized cannabis is having its effect in Colorado, generating mass idiocy.’
ME, Mi, NV, Or, and AK all have legalized cannabis, and none of these states have passed the resolution; OTOH, CT, RI,MD, NJ, IL, and HI all have passed it, without having fully legalized cannabis...kinda makes your argument go up in smoke...
there are zero votes cast to change the USA constitution.
the Constitution provides ways to amend it, .....
an amendment may be proposed either by the Congress with a two-thirds majority vote in both the House of Representatives and the Senate or by a constitutional convention called for by two-thirds of the State legislatures....
neither has been done so far as I am aware, so Colorado can jump up and down 500 times but the USA constitution will not have been amended
correct me if I am wrong, thanks!
This has been done 27 times.
It seems to me that the biggest problem with this idea
is that there is no “official” count of the popular vote.
Whose popular vote count will these states rely on?
CNN? The New York Times? The Associated Press?
yes, this is a way to amend the constitution.
‘there are zero votes cast to change the USA constitution.’
when I speak of votes, I refer to the sum total of the electoral votes of the states who pass this compact (must pass both chambers in bicameral legislatures, which is everyone except NE, though I’m not certain)...should that sum total equal or surpass 270 EV’s, the resolution stipulates that the popular vote totals require the state electors to vote for the candidate with the most votes...and constitutionally, the individual states are granted the right to vote for president by the use of electors, whom the state can employ however it chooses to do so; this compact would adhere to this, as the role of the electors is not changing, and thus no amendment need be made...
there are 89 EV’s needed to reach the 270 threshold to enact this compact; I can see 25 out there for the taking, leaving 64 more, but the rest will be tough...I don’t see it happening, for what it’s worth...
‘yes, this is a way to amend the constitution.’
if you’re referring to the compact in question here, it does not amend the constitution whatsoever; it may redefine how the electors are instructed do cast their ballots, but it does nothing to impede their function as delineated in the Constitution; thus, an amendment is a moot point...
compacts between states require consent of Congress
(also the wording of Article 1 Section 10 indicates that a state many not ENTER INTO a compact with another state without C’s permission, that’s prospective language not retrospective)
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