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To: Zeneta; drpix; fishtank; marktwain; Pontiac
Zeneta: "Do the math? You're kidding, right."

No, my math is 100% correct -- 250,000 fossil species found in geological strata from over 500 million years averages to one fossil species of some type found somewhere on Earth for every 2,000 years.
But estimates of species life and rates of change suggest that for every fossil species found, between 100 and 1,000 species left no fossils that we've yet found.
That is especially true of species who lived in regions where fossilization was rare.

Zeneta: "The number of morphological changes required between species , never mind phenotype's, is mind blowing. "

No it's not, you just misunderstand (deliberately?) the word "species".
Here are examples of three different species of Zebra.
They physically can but normally don't interbreed.
Their morphological changes are far from "mind blowing" :

Now consider the following two different genera of elephants.
They can't interbred.
Still far from "mind blowing":

Zeneta: "Every so-called "transitional fossil" inserted creates the need for two more "Transitional fossils".
Do the math."

Only in your own mind.
For scientific purposes every transitional fossil identified confirms predictions that such forms will be found.
So do the math -- how many confirmations do you need?

I always say, every fossil, without exception, is a transitional form between its long line of ancestors and its descendants, if any.
But, if we've only found one species in a line of 1,000 species, then the changes will naturally seem pretty abrupt.

Zeneta: "And FWIW, virtually all "Random Mutations" lead to death or the inability to reproduce.
DO the MATH."

You sound like you're afraid of math -- do you shake & quiver in the face of it?
Relax, math can be your friend, if you respect it.

As for mutations, tests show us that every individual, without exceptions, is born with a small number of minor usually harmless mutations.
It's one way they can track paternity and lineage.
Harmful mutations are usually weeded out by natural selection over time, but the occasional helpful allele can get passed on to future generations.

And there's a fairly long list of recent helpful mutations in human beings, including high-altitude adaptions, lactose tolerance and cycle-cell malaria defense.

64 posted on 01/26/2019 1:33:20 PM PST by BroJoeK ((a little historical perspective...))
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To: BroJoeK

How much time, do you need?

To make the math work.

Is it OK to continuously re-work those numbers in order make your theories fit?

Or, is that just called “Science?”


65 posted on 01/26/2019 1:40:26 PM PST by Zeneta
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To: BroJoeK
Harmful mutations are usually weeded out by natural selection over time, but the occasional helpful allele can get passed on to future generations.

Yes, weeded out by death.

And the occasional "Helpful" purely random changes just happen to provide some survival benefit for their future generations to be adapted to some future environment. And you call this science?

68 posted on 01/26/2019 2:33:18 PM PST by Zeneta
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