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Right to protest doesn’t allow you intimidate others (pro-abortion thrash)
Press Reader ^ | 12 January 2019 | Martina Devlin

Posted on 01/12/2019 2:24:45 PM PST by Ennis85

Imagine having to pass protesters on your way into court, where a judge is ready to deal with your divorce application, because some people believe marriage ought to be "till death us do part".

Or how about having to make your way past a blockade to access a family planning clinic? What if you had to face down people with reproving placards beside a chemist's shop stocking emergency contraception?

How about trying to get by pickets outside a hospital which does sterilisations or gender reassignment? How would you feel about demonstrations outside venues conducting same-sex marriages?

There will always be some laws opposed by certain groups. Obviously they should not be able to impede access to services. But should they have the right to protest publicly - even if other people feel anxiety as a result?

I'm asking these questions because of anti-abortion activism at a GP practice in Galway and a Drogheda hospital over recent days. Inevitably, the presence of demonstrators, with 'Love them both' and 'Real doctors don't terminate their patients' signs, causes distress to patients and service providers alike.

Their purpose is to hinder women from having terminations which are legal, at last, in Ireland up to 12 weeks into pregnancy without restriction - signed into law just over three weeks ago.

The presence of picketers may also deter doctors from registering with the HSE to provide abortion pills - currently, a relatively low number of GPs (some 200) is listed. Four counties - Sligo, Leitrim, Carlow and Offaly - have no service providers.

Presumably, the number of participating GPs will grow as the service beds down but, for now, some practices may be keeping a wary eye on the anti-choice brigade.

Protests were envisaged and steps ought to have been taken in advance. Perhaps the Government hopes they will fizzle out quickly, but that has not been the experience of other countries, with many obliged to introduce safe zones around clinics and hospitals to keep demonstrators at a distance.

Health Minister Simon Harris has indicated he will introduce legislation for similar buffer areas here. Minister, you really need to crack on because this is likely to take time. Meanwhile, vulnerable women as well as staff are being stigmatised.

Those opposed to women's reproductive choice claim it is undemocratic to interfere with their right to protest. Oddly, however, they have no problem with imposing their moral code on others.

When rights compete with one another, balance is needed. So, while the right to protest in public places is an important one, why must it take place outside a GP's clinic or hospital?

That's where a demonstration spills over into something inherently aggressive, seeking to demonise women who choose a termination. The right to protest gives nobody the right to intimidate others. It allows no one to undermine another's right to make a private decision.

If activists want to highlight a law they take issue with, they should carry their placards to the pavements outside Leinster House, where our legislators conduct business. Ministers, TDs and senators pass in and out regularly - neither their banners nor chants will missed.

Furthermore, if protesters really care about preventing abortions, they might consider directing their efforts towards sex education and contraception.

Private individuals should never be the focus of public protests. Whether demonstrators are polite or noisy, and whether placards are inoffensive or use graphic images, it is intrusive to home in on vulnerable women. They have made their decision already. And probably not an easy one in most cases. Such protests invade people's right to medical privacy.

And what of forcing medical staff to run the gauntlet of pickets on their way in and out of work? That's not protesting; it's something closer to bullying. Staff may be stuck indoors all day rather than go outside during breaks, their freedom of movement impeded.

Protests ought to have been foreseen and measures adopted in advance. Demonstrations are hardly a bolt from the blue - there was every indication some zealots would ignore the voice of the people. Couldn't provision for anti-harassment areas have been stipulated in the legislation? Some line about unimpeded access to services, or no protesters within 150 metres of a clinic?

In any event, the Government has a duty to act swiftly and decisively. Nothing that deters citizens from availing of legally available services or makes it unnecessarily difficult for them to do so is acceptable.

The law must be upheld - it's not a draconian law forced on a reluctant population, it was introduced following a plebiscite passed by two-thirds of those who voted; the result last May was close to landslide proportions.

There is another issue to consider. What if protests frighten off women for days or weeks, causing a delay in accessing a termination? Women might end up missing appointments and having later abortions. This could mean they would have to opt for surgical rather than medical terminations, with a somewhat higher possibility of complications. So much for the "love both" of anti-choice lobbyists.

Ease-of-access zones are a must in the interests of public safety because abortion is a subject which can cause tensions to ratchet up. Potentially, patients and service providers are at risk. In Ealing, west London, the local council has been obliged to introduce a protest exclusion area around a Marie Stopes clinic.

There is a long history of shooting doctors at US clinics, while an escalation in violent attacks was recorded in 2017.

Incidents include an attempted pipe bomb explosion at an Illinois clinic (it failed to detonate), repeated brick throwing at a Cleveland clinic's windows causing tens of thousands of dollars in damage, while in New Jersey a man crashed a stolen truck into Planned Parenthood's offices. Figures in the US show an upsurge in attempts to intimidate both patients and staff, as well as obstruction of access to abortion clinics.

Increased cases of trespass were reported last year, with activists entering service provider outlets and forcing their views on people there.

Despite breaking the law, they are treated as heroes by those who share their anti-choice perspective.

None of that could happen here, you say? I wouldn't bank on it. Consider how British Labour politician Jo Cox was killed in 2016 by a man who resented what he regarded as her liberal views.

Tory MP Anna Soubry was jostled and derided as "scum" and a "Nazi" by hardcore Brexit supporters on her way into the Palace of Westminster just this week because she favours a People's Vote.

Finally, shame on our health service for charging women from the North for terminations. Many are Irish citizens. Treat them accordingly.


TOPICS: Culture/Society; Foreign Affairs
KEYWORDS: abortion; ireland; prolife; protests
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1 posted on 01/12/2019 2:24:45 PM PST by Ennis85
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To: Ennis85

Irish whores must be protected from exposure to truth.


2 posted on 01/12/2019 2:29:34 PM PST by Hugh the Scot (I won`t be wronged. I won`t be insulted. I won`t be laid a hand on. - John Bernard Books)
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To: Ennis85

The left has never shied away from intimidation, or even outright terrorism.


3 posted on 01/12/2019 2:29:52 PM PST by BenLurkin (The above is not a statement of fact. It is either satire or opinion. Or both)
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To: Ennis85

I think pickets in all the venues she mentioned would be more than appropriate.


4 posted on 01/12/2019 2:38:37 PM PST by madprof98
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To: madprof98
Sure, protest. Hurt others. Make the police go violent. Get arrested. Destroy the property others worked to get.And the law will not change.

Great idea.

Whatever you do, do not work with the system to change the law, that idea might work(Sarcasm).

5 posted on 01/12/2019 2:48:11 PM PST by Rapscallion (Walls work anytime night or day, any weather)
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To: madprof98

Especially appropriate where murder is conducted, eh!


6 posted on 01/12/2019 2:48:13 PM PST by MHGinTN (A dispensation perspective is a powerful tool for discernment)
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To: Ennis85

More lib BS!


7 posted on 01/12/2019 2:49:46 PM PST by Agatsu77
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To: Ennis85

False comparisons. In abortion, one person is killed. In divorce, they only wish the other were dead. Major difference.


8 posted on 01/12/2019 2:52:19 PM PST by Jemian (War Eagle! Always, War Eagle!)
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To: Rapscallion

Generally speaking, Catholics praying the rosary are not “making the police go violent” or “destroying property,” though evidently you believe the abortion-rights propaganda more than the people who put it out do.


9 posted on 01/12/2019 2:54:15 PM PST by madprof98
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To: MHGinTN

Seems that way to me, though I think Christians should also have raised a mighty fuss about gay “marriage” instead of meekly going along with the destruction of the institution at the basis of our culture.


10 posted on 01/12/2019 2:55:48 PM PST by madprof98
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To: madprof98

Um, how about the institution as GOD established it.


11 posted on 01/12/2019 2:58:13 PM PST by MHGinTN (A dispensation perspective is a powerful tool for discernment)
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12 posted on 01/12/2019 2:58:14 PM PST by E. Pluribus Unum (Democracy dies when Democrats decide only elections they win are valid.)
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To: Ennis85

Abortionists, aborters and their supporters scare me.

They kill babies, they won’t think twice about killing an adult.


13 posted on 01/12/2019 2:58:28 PM PST by MrBambaLaMamba (No hay dos sin tres)
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To: Rapscallion; madprof98
Nobody with a rosary and "We Love You and Your Little One Too" on a crayoned poster board, is "making the police go violent" or "destroying property".

The only individuals "hurt" at these little Auschwitzes are the little Irish. The next generation, crushed.

OK, the moms are hurt too, as they go in healthy carrying healthy babies, and come out empty, hurting, bleeding, infected or (occasionally) dead.

But maybe you realized that?

In that case, you forgot your /s/.

15 posted on 01/12/2019 3:09:56 PM PST by Mrs. Don-o (Your sarcasm tag: don't leave home without it.)
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To: Rapscallion

Can’t imagine where you saw the rosary-prayers inciting the police to riot—except maybe in your own fantasies.


16 posted on 01/12/2019 3:10:25 PM PST by madprof98
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To: Rapscallion

So, children being killed = OK,
People having polarized opinions = Not OK?


17 posted on 01/12/2019 3:12:10 PM PST by Hugh the Scot (I won`t be wronged. I won`t be insulted. I won`t be laid a hand on. - John Bernard Books)
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To: Ennis85

Imagine having to pass protesters on your way into court, where a judge is ready to deal with your divorce application, because some people believe marriage ought to be “till death us do part”.

There is no right from “walking past protestors” as long as they are peacefully assembled. The message is protected free speech.


18 posted on 01/12/2019 3:13:19 PM PST by morphing libertarian (Use Comey's Report; Indict Hillary now; build Kate's wall. --- Proud Smelly Walmart Deplorable)
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To: Ennis85
a chemist's shop stocking emergency contraception

What, pray tell, is "emergency" contraception?

19 posted on 01/12/2019 3:25:04 PM PST by Charlemagne on the Fox
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To: Rapscallion
Plus, Rapscallion, I have helped encourage and empower abortion-tending moms to turn right around, right in the parking lot; and in subsequent months and years I have been hugged by those same moms, and kissed the sweet smiling faces of the babies who were saved.

It's a powerful motivational experience.

The MOST powerful.

No doubt or defamation from you or anybody else, can nullify that fact.

One life defeats all your defeatism.

20 posted on 01/12/2019 3:25:06 PM PST by Mrs. Don-o (Abortion does not call into question the unborn baby's humanity, but our own.)
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