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Trump backs away from declaring national emergency over wall – live
.theguardian.com ^ | Jan 11, 2019 | Adam Gabbatt in New York

Posted on 01/11/2019 12:40:32 PM PST by 11th_VA

Donald Trump said on Friday that he does not plan to declare a national emergency – a day after suggesting he would “probably” do so.

Speaking at a cabinet meeting over the government shutdown and the border wall, Trump said: “What we’re not looking to do right now is national emergency.”

The president instead urged Democrats to “come back and vote” in Congress in a bid to end the government shutdown.

Trump insisted he had the right to declare an emergency, but said: “I’m not going to do it so fast”, according to a White House pool reporter.

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KEYWORDS: aliens; border; trump; wall
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To: Eddie01

Yeah when the enemy rushes onto the battle field, forms a circle and starts shooting itself, just stand on the side and watch the self-immolation.


21 posted on 01/11/2019 1:07:29 PM PST by AndyJackson
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To: truthkeeper

A caravan is already forming in Honduras, although Mexico has pledged to keep them out, and the official Honduran government is trying to stop them. The problem is that the unofficial Honduran government is their former Marxist president, Zelaya, who tried to be president for life, and the Soros organization supporting him and organizing these “caravans.”


22 posted on 01/11/2019 1:09:00 PM PST by livius
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To: 11th_VA
This is VERY GOOD NEWS.

Declaring a national emergency to build the wall -- and then putting the project into a series of endless court battles that will never get any media coverage -- is exactly what these morons in Congress want Trump to do.

Don't let them off the hook. Make them do their damn jobs.

23 posted on 01/11/2019 1:11:09 PM PST by Alberta's Child (In the time of chimpanzees I was a monkey.)
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To: mrs9x

I like Trump holding the national emergency card in his back pocket. If he plays it now, the pressure on Nancy is removed.

Nancy’s mistake was saying no negotiations on wall funding after a short term CR gets passed and signed (Wednesday meeting). She bought the shutdown fallout with that move.


24 posted on 01/11/2019 1:13:57 PM PST by Gahanna Bob
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To: Buckeye McFrog; 11th_VA

“Dems are self-immolating over this.”

Rush Limbaugh raised the question, Why no polls?

There is only one explanation - they must be great for Trump and abysmal for Dems.

Usually they find at least some twisted hypothetical to run from a poll to support their narrative - but they have nothing at all on this.

No polls. Why did the dog not bark?


25 posted on 01/11/2019 1:14:20 PM PST by BeauBo
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To: 11th_VA
Trump needs to declare a national emergency, and fund all 25+ billion to build the entire border wall, and that's just a start for what he needs to do when it comes to immigration. He's allowed establishment idiots like Lindsey Graham to get way too close, and needs to get a lot more actual MAGA nationalist to advise him. Guys like Graham are campaigning for their own reelection in 2020, and don't give a shit about Trump except for what it means for their reelection. Graham is probably responsible for William Barr as well. I think Graham wants to see Trump fail, while keeping him on his side to make sure he's not challenged in the 2020 republican primary. Trump needs to start talking to people like Bannon again. He's running out of time.
26 posted on 01/11/2019 1:16:13 PM PST by LeeClementineKenny (REPLACE THE ESTABLISHMENT WITH TRUE MAGA PATRIOTS! - TRUMP 2020!! - MAGA!!! - www.DonaldJTrump.com)
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To: livius

A yes - another democratic republic with a “life-president.”


27 posted on 01/11/2019 1:16:44 PM PST by AndyJackson
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To: 11th_VA

For now.

But if there is no progress with the Dems, that may be the only option left.


28 posted on 01/11/2019 1:18:53 PM PST by Innovative
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To: 11th_VA
Trump needs to end the long list of national emergencies that have been declared dating back to the seventies and never ended.

All kinds of underhanded crap gets done by referencing this or that national emergency no one but the bureaucrats who refer to them to justify their actions even remember.

Forget the national emergency for now. Move troops to the border and put up the same sort of bases for them we've spent billions putting in Afghanistan and Syria. Have the troops run patrols out of little bases along the entire length of the border as training for deployment to the same sort of terrain and climate elsewhere.

That's all a defense matter we already take care of further away from the border. Have the military learn to patrol a border by patrolling our own border. Anyone they stop, they can hold until the Border Patrol comes to deal with the same way they sometimes are required to hold people until government troops come to take over when they're in a foreign nation.

The first time some drug gang fires on our troops, then declare a national emergency if there's really any need for one.

29 posted on 01/11/2019 1:22:10 PM PST by Rashputin (Jesus Christ doesn't evacuate His troops, He leads them to victory !!)
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To: livius

So if the Mexicans pledged to keep the 15 thousand caravan from doing like the last caravan and either turn them back or keep them in mexico and they fail. Can Trump yank that almost 11 billion pledged foreign aid package of 5.8 billion for honduras and 4.8 billion for mexico to stop these huge caravans from reaching our border ?


30 posted on 01/11/2019 1:24:15 PM PST by redcatcherb412
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To: LeeClementineKenny
Our government should release the intel we have on who's organizing these caravans and then take action to stop them. These ridiculous legal/illegal immigration tactics being used to destroy the west seem like something China would be involved in to me. The fact we still aren't hearing much about all the Chinese influence operations going on here, show just how well they are working.
31 posted on 01/11/2019 1:24:23 PM PST by LeeClementineKenny (REPLACE THE ESTABLISHMENT WITH TRUE MAGA PATRIOTS! - TRUMP 2020!! - MAGA!!! - www.DonaldJTrump.com)
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To: 11th_VA

President Trump is grinding the down. Stay the course dear President.

And soon there will indeed be greater cause to declare.


32 posted on 01/11/2019 1:28:01 PM PST by Candor7 ((Obama Fascism)http://www.americanthinker.com/articles/2009/05/barack_obama_the_quintessentia_1.html)
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To: Rashputin

“Move troops to the border and put up the same sort of bases for them we’ve spent billions putting in Afghanistan and Syria. Have the troops run patrols out of little bases along the entire length of the border as training for deployment to the same sort of terrain and climate elsewhere.”

Yes, exactly. This should start happening today.

President Trump can and should do this!


33 posted on 01/11/2019 1:28:45 PM PST by Cedar
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To: mrs9x

Trump did not say he would never declare a national emergency, just that he would not do so right now.


This ^. He’s driving them nuts with the speculation and they’re beginning to crack. Art of the deal. Sher coming out yesterday hurt them bad. Trump is keeping his powder dry for the supreme court fight. He won’t win that if impeachment proceedings are going on in the house, and the house will impeach him if he goes scorched earth on the border.


34 posted on 01/11/2019 1:29:49 PM PST by VTenigma (The Democrat party is the party of the mathematically challenged)
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To: Quality_Not_Quantity
Attributed to Napoleon Bonaparte...

I thought it was Sun-Tzu.

But it was probably a paraphrasing of Sun-Tzu:

To secure ourselves against defeat lies in our own hands, but the opportunity of defeating the enemy is provided by the enemy himself.

35 posted on 01/11/2019 1:31:28 PM PST by Bloody Sam Roberts (Anything youÂ’ve ever said will be used against you.)
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To: livius

“some future Dem president, say, Occasional Cortex, could do the same thing for something like “Green Climate Control” “

And unlike Trump they will not hesitate and they will do it.


36 posted on 01/11/2019 1:38:09 PM PST by gibsonguy
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To: patriotspride

I heard the same thing on Fox news on the radio on the way home. That Trump was “backing down”. I was yelling at the radio, all he did was put it out there as an option I never said he was going to do anything. These idiots will twist everything to try to make him look bad.


37 posted on 01/11/2019 1:49:35 PM PST by CottonBall (We are not represented, we are ruled.)
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To: 11th_VA

No Dems are gonna change on this over some calls.

Instead this is likely to go the way of the FISA declassification he was going to do, then sent for review, then said it would be a quick review before it was back to him for declassification.

Instead we’ve got our side (Trump and his crew) offering concessions left and right. Earlier this week it was great free healthcare at the border for anyone who brought their sick kids to us. Today is is more security and a path to citizenship for H1-B immigrants.


38 posted on 01/11/2019 1:49:49 PM PST by 9YearLurker
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To: Buckeye McFrog; 11th_VA

“Declaring an emergency would actually let them off the hook.”

This is the single best issue he could take into the State Of The Union (SOTU), when the eyes of the whole Nation will be focused.

That must be a nightmare for them. Leverage to deal.

The President’s remark about not declaring an emergency right away as an indicator (like his H1-B tweet), that there are now discussions on a deal behind the scenes.


39 posted on 01/11/2019 1:53:32 PM PST by BeauBo
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To: Eddie01

Those harsh beating clips you posted - are they previews for the State of the Union Address?


40 posted on 01/11/2019 1:55:51 PM PST by BeauBo
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