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Homosexuality is to blame for sexual abuse, not Catholic church, claims German cardinal
telegraph.co.uk/news ^ | 1/4/2/19 | Justin Huggler

Posted on 01/06/2019 8:05:27 AM PST by a little elbow grease

A German cardinal on Friday provoked anger and controversy when he claimed the Catholic church was not responsible for sexual abuse by its clerics, and instead sought to pin the blame on homosexuality.

“What has happened in the church is no different from what is happening in society as a whole,” Cardinal Walter Brandmüller said. “The real scandal is that the Catholic church hasn’t distinguished itself from the rest of society.”

A study commissioned by the German Bishops Conference and published last year found that more than 3,600 children were sexually abused by Catholic clergy in Germany between 1946 and 2014.

But Cardinal Brandmüller claimed that only a “vanishingly small number” of clergy had committed abuses. He said the real problem was homosexuality and claimed it is “statistically proven” that there is a link between homosexuality and abuse.

(snip) -- Cardinal Brandmüller has been one of Pope Francis’ most outspoken critics within the Catholic church, and is one of four cardinals who have repeatedly challenged the Pope’s teachings on love and family life. The cardinal’s comments were swiftly condemned on social media and by leading German commentators.

“What a shameful way for the Catholic Church to relativise guilt and defame homosexuals. Disgraceful,” Ulf Poschardt, the editor of Welt newspaper, wrote on Twitter.

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TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society; Foreign Affairs; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: abuse; catholicchurch; controversy; gayclergy; gays; homosexuality; homosexuals
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To: AnotherUnixGeek

There have have sound sociological studies done that show that homosexual men are 11 times more likely to sexually abuse teens or kids than heterosexual men. This Cardinal is brave to speak the truth and go against the PC culture that has infested the Catholic Church and society.


21 posted on 01/06/2019 9:16:24 AM PST by DeweyCA
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To: Hulka
It was when homosexual pedophiles were allowed to join the priesthood when the abuse began

You mean like 1000 years ago?


22 posted on 01/06/2019 9:17:18 AM PST by Jim Noble (Freedom is the freedom to say that 2+2 = 4)
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To: Spok
the impulse to engage in homosexual behavior is stronger than their devotion to their faith

Where is the evidence of their faith?

23 posted on 01/06/2019 9:21:00 AM PST by Jeff Chandler (Every time a lefty cries "racism", a Trump voter gets his wings.)
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To: BenLurkin

Aha! The real scandal is the Catholic church not distinguishing itself against the drifting morals of society. - How true.

The hierarchy of the RC Church allowed gays to infiltrate the clergy. Now, I do not mean to indict every gay clergyman, some of whom strive to live celibate lives just the same as a heterosexual would do. Once multiples of gays were inside the clergy society, it metasticized. Some of these men managed to get advancements to bishoprics, and eventually even to becoming cardinals.

Any society which allows behavior which is against the basic mores of its institution is setting itself up for scandal and abuse. Accusations against priests of abuse against young boys/altar boys and young seminarians, etc. are ignor3ed if the leading clergy of the diocese are also gays. They may be subject to blackmail, for instance, and therefore cover everything up. The harm, and abuse, and sinfulness multiplies.


24 posted on 01/06/2019 9:24:42 AM PST by Gumdrop (Counting candidagtes according to the shades f pigment in their skin.)
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To: AnotherUnixGeek

after reading Goodbye Good Men I would agree with the cardinal


25 posted on 01/06/2019 9:27:01 AM PST by Chickensoup (Leftists totalitarian fascists appear to be planning to eradicate conservatives)
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To: JudyinCanada
No offense, but your post is riddled with fallacies and statements with no basis in fact. I'll post a few items for your consideration:

1. The Catholic Church has trouble finding vocations over the last 50+ years because it has bent over backwards to embrace worldly things and accommodate itself to the modern world. If the goal of a religious organization's existence is to make itself comfortable in the world, it will always lose vocations to other pursuits that offer plenty more in worldly terms. Who would want to be a Catholic priest instead of a Wall Street banker, a medical doctor, or a rabble-rousing political huckster?

2. Traditional Catholic groups like the Society of St. Pius X and the Fraternity of Saint Peter that have eschewed the modern outlook of the larger Catholic Church have no trouble attracting pious, dedicated young men to the priesthood. These groups are building new churches and dealing with overflowing seminaries even as regular parishes are closing and their members fading away. Celibacy is most definitely part of the life of a priest in these orders, and I suspect there are almost ZERO cases of homosexuality among these men.

3. Priestly celibacy in the Catholic Church is what made countries like Poland so strong in their resistance to communist rule. Across Europe, Christian denominations whose leaders had family responsibilities offered almost no resistance to communist governments because these religious leaders were thoroughly compromised by their worldly responsibilities and readily capitulated to any pressure brought upon them.

26 posted on 01/06/2019 9:40:25 AM PST by Alberta's Child (In the time of chimpanzees I was a monkey.)
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To: ClearCase_guy

“It’s the cover-up that is the big problem. THAT is a church problem, not a society problem. And he’s participating in the cover-up by attempting this bit of misdirection.”

The Catholic Church enables homosexuals.


27 posted on 01/06/2019 9:41:15 AM PST by CodeToad ( Hating on Trump is hating on me and America!.)
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To: a little elbow grease
Of course the "homosexuals" in question were all Roman Catholic priests and the hierarchy covered for them.

The only thing new in modern times is people talking openly about it.

28 posted on 01/06/2019 9:45:20 AM PST by Salman (Democrats. The other religion of peace.)
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To: a little elbow grease

Nail on the head! However the church did turn a blind eye to it.


29 posted on 01/06/2019 9:46:48 AM PST by aquila48
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To: richardtavor

The Catholic Church bears more guilt than that. Y covering up the crimes and reassigning the perpetrators to fresh churches they actively participate in the abuse. They are it merely enablers


30 posted on 01/06/2019 9:51:11 AM PST by Mom MD ( .)
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To: a little elbow grease

“The real scandal is that the Catholic church hasn’t distinguished itself from the rest of society.”


He is going to get strung up for that statement. Next assignment for him is China for reeducation. True of most churches.


31 posted on 01/06/2019 9:53:04 AM PST by PeterPrinciple (Thinking Caps are no longer being issued but there must be a warehouse full of them somewhere.)
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To: a little elbow grease

claimed it is “statistically proven” that there is a link between homosexuality and abuse.


truth (such obvious truth) spoken.


32 posted on 01/06/2019 9:54:43 AM PST by PeterPrinciple (Thinking Caps are no longer being issued but there must be a warehouse full of them somewhere.)
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To: a little elbow grease

I think it was because the CC felt it just couldn’t be touched. Arrogance!


33 posted on 01/06/2019 9:56:30 AM PST by marajade (Skywalker)
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To: a little elbow grease

“What a shameful way for the Catholic Church to relativise guilt and defame homosexuals. Disgraceful,” Ulf Poschardt, the editor of Welt newspaper, wrote on Twitter.


relativize guilt, what does that mean?

defame homosexuals? Think about that too.


34 posted on 01/06/2019 9:57:03 AM PST by PeterPrinciple (Thinking Caps are no longer being issued but there must be a warehouse full of them somewhere.)
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To: Alberta's Child

Good points, but what would be the reason for so many homosexuals in the catholic church? I was aware years ago of the large number of homosexual men going through to be priests. What’s the reason for this?


35 posted on 01/06/2019 10:25:20 AM PST by JudyinCanada
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To: JudyinCanada

Good post.


36 posted on 01/06/2019 11:10:18 AM PST by cpdiii ( canecutter, deckhand, roughneck, geologist, pilot, pharmacist THE CONSTITUTION IS WORTH DYING FOR)
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To: Jim Noble

Homosexual pedophiles were banned.

Then the rules changed and they were allowed to become priests—as long as they promised to remain celibate. . .like homosexuals are capable of that restriction.

The current abuse is rooted in homosexuals and their pedophile bent. The German is right, homosexuals are the problem.


37 posted on 01/06/2019 11:15:04 AM PST by Hulka
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To: JudyinCanada

“Now, the perverts in the protestant church, I have no explanation for other than Satan working hard the church.”

Perverts can sneak in anywhere, though the churches I know of have required background checks for 20 years or more.

The issue is what happens when perversity comes to light.

Rome covered it up and moved the perverts to greener pastures - under the tenure at least 5 popes.


38 posted on 01/06/2019 11:17:51 AM PST by aMorePerfectUnion
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To: a little elbow grease

The Catholic Church has to come to the point when they bust the queer priests out of the priesthood. Nothing else will end this abuse. Also, they must not allow anybody with homosexual tendencies into the seminaries.


39 posted on 01/06/2019 11:53:11 AM PST by maxwellsmart_agent (I)
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To: a little elbow grease

Earlier I watched some epidodes of Victory At Sea.

In one episode a catholic chaplin held a service for Marines all geared up for an immnent landing.

The priest droned on in Latin, in Latin. The Catholic curch and all it’s costumed queers are a joke in the modern world


40 posted on 01/06/2019 11:58:04 AM PST by bert ( (KE. N.P. N.C. +12) Princess Gray Beaver, for President?)
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