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It's our turn to be surrender monkeys.
1 posted on 12/25/2018 1:52:00 AM PST by familyop
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There’s more behind the link, by the way. That one should have auto-excerpted and didn’t.

Updated FR Excerpt and Link Only or Deny Posting List due to Copyright Complaints
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/1111944/posts


2 posted on 12/25/2018 1:54:53 AM PST by familyop ("Welcome to Costco. I love you." - -Costco greeter in the movie, "Idiocracy")
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It's our turn to be surrender monkeys.

That's one narrative.

3 posted on 12/25/2018 2:00:55 AM PST by Jeff Chandler (Every time a lefty cries "racism", a Trump voter gets his wings.)
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Here’s a better link. The article won’t scroll off of the page at this site.

Turkey warns France ‘no benefit’ in protecting Kurd militia
(The Local)
https://www.thelocal.fr/20181225/turkey-warns-france-no-benefit-in-protecting-kurd-militia


4 posted on 12/25/2018 2:19:35 AM PST by familyop ("Welcome to Costco. I love you." - -Costco greeter in the movie, "Idiocracy")
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If the game is to create a Kurd-state out of the northern quarter of Syria...then you’d have to admit to nation-building and that’s not the job of the US (or for that matter France). Once ISIS was put down as a threat, the US should pack up and leave.


5 posted on 12/25/2018 2:20:53 AM PST by pepsionice
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Get them out and put them on OUR border.

The invasion from the south is overwhelming local resources. 100s of thousands of County money is spent burying and locating family members of DEAD invaders.

They need to put some dog tags on with next of kin contact.

8 posted on 12/25/2018 2:49:06 AM PST by eartick (Stupidity is expecting the government that broke itself to go out and fix itself. Texan for TEXIT!)
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“...(YPG)...Critics say thousands of Daesh members are still in Syria and could pose a threat with some analysts concerned the withdrawal could lead to a resurgence of Daesh....”

How many franicesses will be blamed?


9 posted on 12/25/2018 3:08:49 AM PST by Vendome (I've Gotta Be Me https://youtu.be/wH-pk2vZGw2M)
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It would be in much better interests of the Saudis to protect the Kurds, and supply them with the necessary support. The Kurds are targets of Turkey, Daesh, and the Iranians, and for that matter, the Russians, but for a much less degree of engagement.

Carving out a stable state of Kurdistan, composed of ethnic Kurds, from the territories of Turkey, Syria, Iraq and Iran, and including a corner of Azerbaijan, a former province of the old Soviet Union, would do much to stabilize a buffer state with highly motivated and fiercely independent population. True, most of the Kurds are Muslim, but they feel little brotherhood with either the Alawites of Syria or the Shi’a of Iran.

The Peshmerga is one of the best of guerrilla armies in the world, and organized on a national basis, they could be a potent force for throttling the ambitions of either the Iranians or Turkey.


12 posted on 12/25/2018 4:07:54 AM PST by alloysteel (Man does not live by bread alone. He needs chocolate cake too.)
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Read the recent Greenfield take on it...Trump is being anything but a “surrender monkey”...


14 posted on 12/25/2018 4:47:51 AM PST by trebb (Those who don't donate anything tend to be empty gasbags...no-value-added types)
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Count me among the "surrender monkeys". We should immediately withdraw from Syria,Afghanistan,Africa and anywhere else our military is involved.
Then change the name Defense back to War Department and absolutely forbid the travelin' trash State Department from even communicating with them. Fire the horde of lawyers writing ROEs and only have two 1)Kill people 2)Break stuff and never never ever take nukes off the table.
We're the greatest military force the world has ever seen and it's time we started acting like it.
Weak sister politicians and bureaucrats (Yes,Mattis and his cute sayings go in the pile too.) should be flogged and publicly disgraced.

Sorry for the rant on Christmas but after spending two years of my youth chasing gooks all over S.E. Asia it makes me sick to my stomach to see what our military has devolved into and we're still 0-5 since WW2.

Yes,I am a Marine and can and do get on "Mouthy" Mathis loud and often.He's a punk with a ghostwriter.

15 posted on 12/25/2018 4:50:43 AM PST by SanchoP (Don't feed the trolls.)
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Who even knew the French were operating in Syria before last week?

I’ll wager they’re gone before the end of January.


16 posted on 12/25/2018 4:54:01 AM PST by mac_truck (aide toi et dieu t'aidera)
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“It’s our turn to be surrender monkeys.”

It’s hard to be a ‘surrender monkey’ when you still haven’t been told what you’re fighting for.


19 posted on 12/25/2018 6:05:30 AM PST by BobL (I eat at McDonald's and shop at Walmart - I just don't tell anyone.)
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It's our turn to be surrender monkeys.

OK, so what is your vision?

The Middle East is occupied by hundreds of millions of Arabs, Persians, and Turks. They practice an alien faith and have social and governmental structures which are foreign to us.

Do you think they can become liberal democrats if we only allow the sons of deplorables to continue to lose arms, legs, and their lives, indefinitely? Do you think they will become like us if we conquer the region with a non-existent 80-100 division army and rule as colonizers for 100 years?

What, exactly, do you think should be done?

23 posted on 12/25/2018 6:23:00 AM PST by Jim Noble (Freedom is the freedom to say that 2+2 = 4)
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The Turks want to rout the Kurds that we have been allied with. I would stay there.


26 posted on 12/25/2018 6:27:36 AM PST by dennisw
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Do Freepers know that about 70% of the Turks in Germany are actually ethnic Kurds? From the less civilized Eastern Turkey.


27 posted on 12/25/2018 6:30:22 AM PST by dennisw
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This was a mistake allowing Turkey to occupy part of Syria. Assad could have cleaned up what’s left of ISIS. And the Kurds would still be alive.


28 posted on 12/25/2018 6:31:03 AM PST by McGruff
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Daesh in Syria is a threat to who?
Assad. Russia. Iran.
Are we going to fight ISIS to help Assad Russia and Iran?
If not WTH are we there?

Questions Trump asked Bolton, and got no answer.


32 posted on 12/25/2018 8:39:37 AM PST by silverleaf (A man who kneels for the national anthem doesn't stand for much of anything)
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