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France suspends controversial fuel tax after weeks of unrest
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Posted on 12/04/2018 3:56:36 AM PST by Sub-Driver

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To: xp38
I saw firemen who were being spoken to about an emergency state turn their backs on those speaking and file out one row at a time.

Add in the ambulance drivers.

Macron was about to lose BIGLY. No doubt about it.

81 posted on 12/04/2018 7:57:42 AM PST by MarMema (don't forget to stock up on dogfood)
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To: tennmountainman

That would be a cause for chocolate and joy.


82 posted on 12/04/2018 7:58:22 AM PST by MarMema (don't forget to stock up on dogfood)
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To: Sub-Driver

Ironic that it happened at the location
of the Paris Climate Accord.


83 posted on 12/04/2018 7:58:22 AM PST by Palio di Siena
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To: PapaBear3625

If Macron dies suddenly in an accident be very suspicious.


84 posted on 12/04/2018 8:04:20 AM PST by MarMema (don't forget to stock up on dogfood)
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To: goldstategop

Good to have achieved even a deferral.
Bad to have set precedent that rioting works.

For some, this moment of success will evoke the question, “What do we want to riot about today?”


85 posted on 12/04/2018 8:46:03 AM PST by HKMk23 (You ask how to fight an idea? Well, I'll tell you how: with another idea!)
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To: HKMk23

Why would Parisians who use very little gas or diesel riot over fuel taxes? Hint: They’re not.

The Parisian rioters are Leftists rioting against class disparity, wealth, etc. They are globalists.

The Yellow Jacket protesters are rurual and working class French protesting higher fuel taxes and globalism. They are nationalists.


86 posted on 12/04/2018 8:57:05 AM PST by Justa
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To: MarMema

From what I’ve been reading from French posters on another forum....they don’t think the military will get involved. Think the Gendarmerie will be used mainly.

I’m a little concerned. I have relatives near Paris and they aren’t in the best of health. They depend on their cars and main docs are in Paris.


87 posted on 12/04/2018 9:41:06 AM PST by RushIsMyTeddyBear (:¬| Beep beep....boop boop)
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To: mewzilla

Brexit went the same way.
The People voted yes, the Political Elite said “no”


88 posted on 12/04/2018 10:46:43 AM PST by Zathras
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To: DungeonMaster

"Nous voulons Trump"

"Nous voulons Trump"

"Nous voulons Trump"


89 posted on 12/04/2018 11:05:59 AM PST by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: MarMema

Speedway (big dog on the porch) just jumped gas from $2.02 to $2.40 this morning.

Can you say 20% increase??


90 posted on 12/04/2018 11:13:49 AM PST by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: MarMema

Would sloooowly be less so?


91 posted on 12/04/2018 11:14:31 AM PST by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: AdmSmith; AnonymousConservative; Arthur Wildfire! March; Berosus; Bockscar; cardinal4; ColdOne; ...
A DNC shill from the DC ComPost explaining why we'll all be better off paying more taxes.

92 posted on 12/04/2018 12:19:27 PM PST by SunkenCiv (and btw -- https://www.gofundme.com/for-rotator-cuff-repair-surgery)
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To: Sub-Driver

This is all Trump’s fault! Yay! For the thousandth time in my life, I’m proud to not be French.


93 posted on 12/04/2018 3:36:27 PM PST by Eleutheria5 (If you are not prepared to use force to defend civilization, then be prepared to accept barbarism.)
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To: mewzilla
“And I’m wondering if the suspension will be in place only until the French government can get new laws passed banning protests.”

Likely, knowing proggies. But....


94 posted on 12/04/2018 4:03:10 PM PST by polymuser (It is terrible to contemplate how few politicians are hanged today. - Chesterton)
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To: Sub-Driver

The newly formed Yellow Jackets should invite President Trump to come and speak to them in a rally.


95 posted on 12/04/2018 4:34:09 PM PST by polymuser (It is terrible to contemplate how few politicians are hanged today. - Chesterton)
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To: OttawaFreeper
Meanwhile in California

If France can experience a turnaround, so can we...and hopefully with a lot less chaos.

96 posted on 12/04/2018 6:27:25 PM PST by CondoleezzaProtege
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From the donald. Reddit.

It’s important to note that the majority of protestors are middle aged, these are not college or university students, who make up the usual French protests. This is a grassroots protest. It’s been reported anywhere from 50-80% of the French support the gilets jaunes. This is NOT just about taxes.

The protests began over the new taxes imposed by Macron’s government on fuel. The taxes are viewed as punishing those who use cars and those who can’t afford to buy newer ones. The French already pay heavy taxes on fuel, along with high tolls on highways. Every car in France is required to have 2 high visibility vests (gilets jaunes). The protestors began wearing those vests while protesting.

Along with this, the cost of living is incredibly high while salaries are painfully low, especially in larger cities like Paris. The myth of government-ordered 35 hour work weeks isn’t the reality for most salaried French people. Taxes eat huge chunks of their money and the French are fed up with making the same amount in their salaries as those who don’t work at all and rely on government assistance.

Parts of France are also filled with unassimilated migrants. These migrants get government assistance as well. A large part of the French are sick of paying for migrants when French people are suffering as well. There are areas that have stopped being culturally French and cities the French avoid for holidays because of the migrant problem.

In addition to this, retired people have been lodging their dissatisfaction with their retirement pensions (one woman in a video circulating around French Facebook confronts Macron about having to live off of 500€ a month) and Macron’s reactions have been condescending across the board. He currently has about a 26% approval rating.

All of this started bubbling up a few weeks ago as the protests began with the gilets jaunes in November. The protests last weekend got violent. Statues at the Arc De Triomphe were broken; the Arc was defaced. In Marseille, an 80 year old woman was killed as she was closing her shutters. The police threw a tear gas canister at her window. While outside of larger cities, many police officers and firefighters are taking off their helmets and/or standing in solidarity with the gilets jaunes. There have been reports that they have also refused to shake Macron’s hand and have turned their backs to government officials while serving in official capacities.

On Monday (December 2), there was a protest by the ambulances in Paris. They stood at Concorde with lights flashing and sirens sounding. Truck drivers have also showed their solidarity. They have also driven through Paris with lights flashing to show their dissatisfaction. Roads have been closed down by gilets jaunes and they are blocking access of oil in both ports and at stations. As of posting, over 650 stations are on a list of facing shortages or out of fuel. During yesterday’s news cycle, many truck drivers were seen disrupting broadcasts by honking in solidarity with the gilets jaunes.

On Tuesday (December 3), the French government spoke about their plans for “appeasement” of the gilets jaunes. Their offer was to postpone the start date of 3 taxes (related to fuel). This offer has been scoffed at by the gilets jaunes, who have called it “crumbs” as the taxes haven’t even been implemented yet and the offer does nothing to address the issues regarding cost of living.

Along with this, the French have begun demanding that Macron refuse to sign the UN Migration Act on December 10. This has begun appearing across the Facebook groups and events but has not been widely reported in the French media as far as I can tell.

This has culminated in everything from demands Macron step down to the creation of the 6th Republic. There are protests planned for Saturday across France. The protestors are calling the Paris protests ACT 4. They are quoting from the French National Anthem (”Aux Armes Citoyens”) and planning to protest at Bastille. The medical community is also participating in the protests on Saturday.

TLDR: This is bigger than taxes. These aren’t your usual French protests.

Edit: Thank you to the anonymous redditor who gave me platinum! And thank you to the mods for stickying this so quickly!


97 posted on 12/05/2018 6:33:12 AM PST by TigerClaws
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To: Elsie

Nous voulons LePen


98 posted on 12/05/2018 8:59:12 AM PST by AbolishCSEU (Amount of "child" support paid is inversely proportionate to mo"tther's actual parenting of children)
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To: AbolishCSEU

Pepe LePhew


99 posted on 12/05/2018 6:54:03 PM PST by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: goldstategop

The French government surrendering to the French people? Sacre’ bleu! C’est ne possible.


100 posted on 12/06/2018 12:55:56 AM PST by MadMax, the Grinning Reaper
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