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President Trump Will Visit Victims of California's Wildfires
Townhall.com ^ | November 15, 2018 | Lauretta Brown

Posted on 11/15/2018 2:32:56 PM PST by Kaslin

President Trump will visit the victims of California’s deadliest wildfires on Saturday. The fires have killed 59 people and 130 more remain missing.

"The President will travel to California this Saturday to meet with individuals impacted by the wildfires. We will keep you updated on details as they are available," White House spokeswoman Lindsay Walters announced Thursday.

The town of Paradise, population 27,000, was destroyed last week by the Camp Fire in northern California which has burned down more structures than any other wildfire recorded in California. The fire has destroyed at least 7,600 homes.

As of Thursday morning, the Woolsey Fire in Southern California burnt 98,362 acres and is 57 percent contained.

President Trump initially blamed the fires on poor management. 

"There is no reason for these massive, deadly and costly forest fires in California except that forest management is so poor," he wrote in a tweet. "Billions of dollars are given each year, with so many lives lost, all because of gross mismanagement of the forests. Remedy now, or no more Fed payments!"

California Gov. Jerry Brown responded Sunday that “managing all the forests and everywhere we can does not stop climate change and those who deny that are definitely contributing to the tragedies that we're now witnessing and will continue to witness in the coming years."

However, the two spoke Wednesday and seem to be on better terms. 

“President Trump told me on the telephone yesterday that he’s completely behind California in getting this recovery underway,” Brown said.

"President Trump told me they’re going to do everything possible to help California in this time of need,” Brown emphasized. “There’s a lot of statements, a lot of loose rhetoric, but I think we’re on the right path right now and we’re going to all work together.”



TOPICS: Culture/Society; US: California
KEYWORDS: california; campfire; drought; globalwarminghoax; sierranevadas
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1 posted on 11/15/2018 2:32:56 PM PST by Kaslin
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To: Kaslin

A fire that selectively went after houses, cars, people but left trees and gasoline pumps alone?


2 posted on 11/15/2018 2:39:09 PM PST by Slyfox (Not my circus, not my monkeys)
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To: Kaslin

While he is there, he can educate Californians about how their leaders’ forest management causes fires and how they are blaming the fires on a a fake climate problem. He needs to come out swinging.


3 posted on 11/15/2018 2:47:01 PM PST by Socon-Econ
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To: Kaslin

Thank you for your visit,Mr.President.


4 posted on 11/15/2018 2:47:13 PM PST by Del Rapier
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To: Slyfox

I am sure there were trees that were burned. Maybe there were no gasoline pumps in the area. What do I know?


5 posted on 11/15/2018 2:54:41 PM PST by Kaslin
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To: Kaslin

Is it climate change or gross mismanagement ?


6 posted on 11/15/2018 2:56:31 PM PST by oldbrowser (The government did not create the people. The people created the government.)
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To: Socon-Econ

From what I’ve heard the fires started as a camp fire on Federal land.


7 posted on 11/15/2018 2:58:35 PM PST by Nomad577
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To: Socon-Econ

“While he is there, he can educate Californians about how their leaders’ forest management causes fires and how they are blaming the fires on a a fake climate problem. He needs to come out swinging.”

Shame Obama got rid of all those fire fighting planes.


8 posted on 11/15/2018 2:59:19 PM PST by EQAndyBuzz (EVERYONE IS UNIQUE! JUST LIKE EVERYONE ELSE!)
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To: Nomad577

It was started by PG&E (Pacific Gas & Electric) mis-handling a project. They also have “rules” in place to cut power should something be wrong. The guy in charge didn’t “think” it was bad enough to cut power.... and up she went.

Now Moonbeam has signed a law saying the population of the state will cover the damages in fees and taxes (or so I read) meaning the subsidized entity has nothing to worry about.


9 posted on 11/15/2018 3:00:38 PM PST by SparkyBass
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To: Kaslin

Gross mismanagement of federal forest land began during the Clinton administration. California forest land has been mismanaged for decades as well. Until policies change, and resources reallocated, these devastating fires will continue. There will always be wildfires, but better management can make them less devastating.


10 posted on 11/15/2018 3:06:39 PM PST by karnage
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To: Kaslin

Heard this yesterday, but Moonbeam stopped the government from investigating (or something) the power line fires.


11 posted on 11/15/2018 3:17:11 PM PST by NetAddicted (Just looking)
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To: Slyfox

“A fire that selectively went after houses, cars, people but left trees and gasoline pumps alone?”

Look closer.


12 posted on 11/15/2018 3:31:38 PM PST by ScottinVA (GOP: The party of jobs. Democrats: The party of mobs.)
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To: Socon-Econ

Paradise is in the conservative region of the state. I’m quite sure they know of the need for better forest management. Problem is, they have no political power in that state.


13 posted on 11/15/2018 3:33:44 PM PST by ScottinVA (GOP: The party of jobs. Democrats: The party of mobs.)
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To: EQAndyBuzz

“Shame Obama got rid of all those fire fighting planes.”

I was not aware of that - have you a link to articles about his shedding them?

I’m interested for two reasons: 1. I am a retired Naval Aviator and am interested in all things aviation and 2. I hate Ophopnybama and need any/all examples to add to my list of reasons to hate on him.


14 posted on 11/15/2018 3:55:27 PM PST by Taxman (We will never be a truly free people so long as we have the income tax and the IRS.)
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To: Kaslin
“managing all the forests and everywhere we can does not stop climate change and those who deny that are definitely contributing to the tragedies that we're now witnessing and will continue to witness in the coming years."

What about man-bear-pig?


15 posted on 11/15/2018 4:03:51 PM PST by Eleutheria5 (If you are not prepared to use force to defend civilization, then be prepared to accept barbarism.)
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To: Nomad577

I’ve heard it was a ‘splody transformer.


16 posted on 11/15/2018 4:27:39 PM PST by Paladin2
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To: Taxman

I remember hearing that the FS didn’t contract with some of the bigger ‘plane operators.

Not sure of why or the year(s).


17 posted on 11/15/2018 4:29:09 PM PST by Paladin2
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To: Socon-Econ

IIRC, I remember the Lexington fire above Los Gatos in the Santa Cruz Mountains back in the mid-80’s and previously PG&E wanted to cut back tree branches 4’ from power lines but was successfully sued by an environmental group and was only allowed to cut them back 3’ and sparks too close to the trees started the fire....don’t quote me, memory is hazy but I remember thinking, way back when, What the heck?!?


18 posted on 11/15/2018 4:41:03 PM PST by TMD (Behind Enemy Lines....)
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To: TMD

I remember the Lexington fire above Los Gatos in the Santa Cruz Mountains back in the mid-80’s and previously PG&E wanted to cut back tree branches 4’ from power lines but was successfully sued by an environmental group and was only allowed to cut them back 3’ and sparks too close to the trees started the fire....don’t quote me, memory is hazy
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Hope you can share this memory with a group that can investigate, confirm, and use it.


19 posted on 11/15/2018 5:15:08 PM PST by Socon-Econ
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To: Taxman

“I was not aware of that - have you a link to articles about his shedding them?

I’m interested for two reasons: 1. I am a retired Naval Aviator and am interested in all things aviation and 2. I hate Ophopnybama and need any/all examples to add to my list of reasons to hate on:

Try this: https://www.foxnews.com/us/national-guard-firefighting-planes-sit-idle-as-obama-authorizes-24-million-for-new-aircraft


20 posted on 11/15/2018 5:27:22 PM PST by EQAndyBuzz (EVERYONE IS UNIQUE! JUST LIKE EVERYONE ELSE!)
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