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The Trump Curveball: This Is What China Didn't Expect (Gordon Chang)
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| Gordon Chang
Posted on 11/01/2018 8:01:42 AM PDT by RoosterRedux
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To: RoosterRedux
For decades Gordon Chang has been fantastic.
A great thinker and author, a huge patriot.
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posted on
11/01/2018 8:04:34 AM PDT
by
gaijin
To: RoosterRedux
Stop talking about China...it’s Russia, Russia, Russia dammit!
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posted on
11/01/2018 8:12:25 AM PDT
by
pgkdan
(The Silent Majority STILL Stands With TRUMP! WWG1WGA)
To: RoosterRedux
Disengagement = Stop doing business in, and with, China.
Yes, it’s preferable to war.
And we don’t need them anyway. For anything.
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posted on
11/01/2018 8:15:28 AM PDT
by
Mariner
(War Criminal #18)
To: gaijin
Yes he is.
And that is one of the best articles on the subject I have read in a long time.
That said, I am not sure that disengagement can prevent a war with China. When China's economy really starts sputtering and Xi gets panicky, he might resort to war.
To: Mariner
Nonsense.
We're utterly dependent on China for basic electronic components. There are no US suppliers who can provide resistors, capacitors, inductors, ICs, connectors, and other critical electronic components in the quantities needed. My company is buying millions of dollars of such components a year, and so is every other big electronics manufacturer.
We need to develop our own capability, but that will never happen when Chinese components are cheaper and work just as well.
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posted on
11/01/2018 8:45:55 AM PDT
by
backwoods-engineer
(Enjoy the decline of the American empire.)
To: RoosterRedux
What scares me is that many “American” corporations are really run and owned by globalists. I think they will do their best to undermine and defeat Trump’s attempt to restore us as an independent nation vs. just a mall where the world buys and sells.
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posted on
11/01/2018 8:50:43 AM PDT
by
throwback
(The object of opening the mind, is as of opening the mouth, is to shut it again on something solid.)
To: backwoods-engineer
That’s why the supply chains are moving elsewhere in Asia.
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posted on
11/01/2018 8:55:02 AM PDT
by
Mariner
(War Criminal #18)
To: backwoods-engineer
What are you manufacturing that the Chinese can’t target and make cheaper than you can with their own parts, and cut you out as the middleman? Therein lies the rub. I heard some story I think it was some Italian vendor that was getting tomatoes from China to make their sauce because it was so much cheaper. Once the Chinese figured out their product, they took their own tomatoes and started a competing brand. It’s what they do.
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posted on
11/01/2018 9:01:36 AM PDT
by
throwback
(The object of opening the mind, is as of opening the mouth, is to shut it again on something solid.)
To: throwback; Liz
[restore America] as an independent nation vs. just a mall where the world buys and sells.
* * *
Well said, throwback.
Trump has reversed the attitude that America is destined to be nothing more than a “mall”. And he’s not just saying American can be great again, he’s PROVING it with results.
America is an attitude and belief that We the People are destined to rise and achieve excellence in every corner of our society. And we will do it in a unified way.
There are a streaming of categories and identies living inside me. Slice and dice them any way you want, I am FIRST a PROUD AMERICAN!
To: backwoods-engineer
Add in DRUGS!
Yall know just how much China is in control of the drugs (and raw ingrediants for drugs) Americans use and need? And our military?
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posted on
11/01/2018 9:46:35 AM PDT
by
polymuser
(ItÂ’s terrible to contemplate how few politicians are hanged today. - Chesterton)
To: throwback
What are you manufacturing that the Chinese cant target and make cheaper than you can with their own parts, and cut you out as the middleman? Water meters and meter-reading equipment, for US & Canadian markets. China can't break into the market because of their sloppy quality. We and our competitors have enormous market share.
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posted on
11/01/2018 9:59:35 AM PDT
by
backwoods-engineer
(Enjoy the decline of the American empire.)
To: gaijin
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posted on
11/01/2018 10:06:50 AM PDT
by
sparklite2
(See more at Sparklite Times)
To: Mariner
“And we dont need them anyway. For anything”
How about all that money we owe them, and it continues to get larger. They have a powerful weapon to use if they become desperate.
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posted on
11/01/2018 11:01:34 AM PDT
by
gbscott
To: backwoods-engineer
Good for you. Cheapest isn't always the least expensive. When I can I much prefer to buy a more expensive product because it lasts. I think people expected that China would evolve like Japan and Korea did. At different times they had cheap labor, but they evolved such that their economies seem to compete on a level playing field with other developed countries. The Chinese seem to always cut corners, though. Maybe communism and its need for conformity will never permit that evolution.
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posted on
11/01/2018 12:05:57 PM PDT
by
throwback
(The object of opening the mind, is as of opening the mouth, is to shut it again on something solid.)
To: gbscott
How about all that money we owe them, and it continues to get larger. They have a powerful weapon to use if they become desperate.As do we, as in, "We ain't payen' piss off".
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posted on
11/01/2018 12:12:07 PM PDT
by
USS Alaska
(Nuke all mooselimb terrorists, today.)
To: backwoods-engineer
China could build a competitive product, if it were of strategic value to their goals. Otherwise they export a mimic slipshod product to separate the uninformed from their funds.
To: RoosterRedux
...as Charles Burton of Brock University told the National Interest, there is no basis for give-and-take negotiation here. His point? While the U.S. has ample cause for dissatisfaction with Chinas trade regime and pervasive use of economic espionage, China has no justified cause to make reciprocal demands on the U.S. Burton is correct. This is, as he contends, an asymmetrical dispute whose sustainable resolution can only come via unilateral concessions on the part of Beijing. And Xi Jinping, due to his marching China back to a Maoist-Stalinist economy, is not going to make those concessions.Would China throw in with Iran to keep oil flowing?
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posted on
05/07/2019 9:54:06 AM PDT
by
GOPJ
("Elites reflexively exempt themselves from the ravages of their own policies." - nathanbedford)
To: GOPJ
The new Silk Road route (belt and road initiate of China) runs right through Tehran. I think China has already thrown in with Iran.
To: RoosterRedux
I think China has already thrown in with Iran. Very possible...
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posted on
05/07/2019 8:45:15 PM PDT
by
GOPJ
("Elites reflexively exempt themselves from the ravages of their own policies." - nathanbedford)
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