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Harvard Admissions Chief Defends Policies in First Day of Trial
Wall Street Journal ^ | October 15, 2018 | Nicole Hong and Melissa Korn

Posted on 10/16/2018 12:09:22 PM PDT by reaganaut1

BOSTON—Harvard University’s longtime admissions dean defended the school’s recruitment of prospective students in the first day of a landmark trial accusing Harvard of discriminating against Asian-American applicants.

On Monday, lawyers for the plaintiffs focused on internal documents showing Harvard sends targeted letters to high-school students who score well on the PSAT, encouraging them to consider applying to the prestigious school. The score thresholds vary by race.

In a recent admissions year, white students in 20 underrepresented states—which Harvard calls “sparse country”—received a recruitment letter if they scored 1310 or higher out of a possible 1600 on the combined verbal and math components, according to the plaintiffs’ exhibit. In all U.S. states, Asian-American women had to score at least 1350 to receive a letter, while Asian-American men had to score at least 1380.

The PSAT is considered a preview of how a student may score on the SAT.

Black, Hispanic and Native American high-schoolers nationally who scored at least 1100 received a letter, the plaintiffs’ exhibit showed.

Students who qualify for these letters are twice as likely to be admitted as students who don’t qualify, according to a handbook provided to Harvard’s alumni interviewers.

William Fitzsimmons, Harvard’s admissions dean since 1986, defended the policy by saying the letters to white students in more rural states help the school recruit from areas where students may be less aware of Harvard. “We do everything we can to reach out to a much broader range of people,” he testified.

Mr. Fitzsimmons, 74 years old, said the lower thresholds for underrepresented minorities take into consideration how the “rather stark economic differences and opportunities” those students face may affect their ability to score higher on standardized tests.

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TOPICS: News/Current Events; US: Massachusetts
KEYWORDS: affirmativeaction; collegeadmissions; harvard; racialpreferences
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To be recruited, Asian guys needed 1380 on the SAT, Asian girls 1350, whites 1310, and blacks and Hispanics 1100. If that's not blatant racial discrimination, what is?
1 posted on 10/16/2018 12:09:23 PM PDT by reaganaut1
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To: reaganaut1

Those policies are illegal and unconstitutional. If there’s a law that “allows” them, that law is invalid and not binding.


2 posted on 10/16/2018 12:10:27 PM PDT by I want the USA back (Patriarchal binary all original-equipment breeder and White-privileged crusader.)
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To: reaganaut1

How is the PSAT allowed to obtain race metadata?


3 posted on 10/16/2018 12:11:29 PM PDT by Paladin2
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Policy Translation:

If there is little chance of converting you into a stark, raving, Totalitarian supporting Stalinist you can’t come here.


4 posted on 10/16/2018 12:13:09 PM PDT by USCG SimTech
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To: reaganaut1
If that's not blatant racial discrimination, what is?

It is called achieving racial diversity.

Sometimes you have to discriminate in order not to be discriminatory.

5 posted on 10/16/2018 12:14:00 PM PDT by Yo-Yo (Is the /sarc tag really necessary?)
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To: reaganaut1

Harvard tries to defend it’s discrimination against Asian applicants...

Let the tap-dancing and pretzel-twisting begin.


6 posted on 10/16/2018 12:14:27 PM PDT by simpson96
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To: reaganaut1

bookmark


7 posted on 10/16/2018 12:16:16 PM PDT by GOP Poet
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To: reaganaut1
My son got his letter last month. Yale too.

Not in his top ten choices.

University of Georgia is his #1. Best engineering school. Amazing I know, but it is.

8 posted on 10/16/2018 12:18:21 PM PDT by blackdog
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To: I want the USA back

Harvard is a private college. The US Constitution protects their right to peacefully assemble (for the purpose of education, commerce and research) AS THEY PLEASE.

Since Harvard is not a state school, the 14th amendment does not apply. Further, it is not a “public accommodation” as it is not open to everyone.

You could argue that those receiving state grants, scholarships or loans could infer the attachment of the 14th amendment but that would first apply to the granting of such financial instruments.

In short, you have NO RIGHT to be treated equally outside of the government. You have no more “right” to be accepted to Harvard than you have the “right” to trespass on someone’s property.


9 posted on 10/16/2018 12:19:51 PM PDT by taxcontrol
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To: blackdog

U of Georgia best engineering school?


10 posted on 10/16/2018 12:21:41 PM PDT by BRL
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To: reaganaut1

Sandra Day O’Connor defied logic when she proclaimed from the bench that affirmative action would remain “constitutional” for the next thirty years but after that it would no longer be relevant and no longer “constitutional”. This is what passes for “constitutional” law these days. No wonder Harvard and other elitists feel they can violate individual rights or discriminate with impunity because they knew all they needed was a liberal judge to find their policies of course legal and “constitutional”. Good luck to the Asian students but somehow Harvard will prevail and keep doing whatever it wants despite the amount of Federal money they receive.


11 posted on 10/16/2018 12:21:49 PM PDT by allendale (.)
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Oh, but “Diversity” is a “compelling state interest” according to the life-appointed “justices”


12 posted on 10/16/2018 12:22:06 PM PDT by A_Former_Democrat ("Mods/Indies/Dems/Non-voters" Are the CRAZY DIMS REALLY who you'd want BACK in POWER?)
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“…said the lower thresholds for underrepresented minorities take into consideration how the “rather stark economic differences and opportunities”

Becuse we all know that being “White” or “Asian” automarically means you are wealthy and have an abundance of opportunities, BARF.

Descrimination is Discrimanation, I hope the Sue the pants off of these ass-holes


13 posted on 10/16/2018 12:30:21 PM PDT by DanielRedfoot (Hate is the new Love... ~ hug a snowflake)
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Yep

But doncha know Michael Jordan’s kids have those “rather stark economic . . .opportunities”

Vs the white kids in Appalachia


14 posted on 10/16/2018 12:32:07 PM PDT by A_Former_Democrat ("Mods/Indies/Dems/Non-voters" Are the CRAZY DIMS REALLY who you'd want BACK in POWER?)
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University of Georgia is his #1. Best engineering school. Amazing I know, but it is.

I hope you meant Georgia Tech.

15 posted on 10/16/2018 12:33:21 PM PDT by Cowboy Bob ("Other People's Money" = The life blood of Liberalism)
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To: taxcontrol
...In short, you have NO RIGHT to be treated equally outside of the government. You have no more “right” to be accepted to Harvard than you have the “right” to trespass on someone’s property.

I think the way this works is that Harvard accepts a lot of contracts from the Feds. Along with those contracts come clauses preventing discrimination in all things, great and small.

Harvard has a stark choice -- give up all government contracts or end discrimination. They are not going to give up the Federal sugar...

16 posted on 10/16/2018 12:34:58 PM PDT by CurlyDave
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To: taxcontrol

Explain Title IX and how all schools must abide.


17 posted on 10/16/2018 12:35:17 PM PDT by outpostinmass2
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To: reaganaut1

‘We deserve the right to discriminate because our discrimination compensates for discrimination which is bad.’


18 posted on 10/16/2018 12:35:58 PM PDT by yesthatjallen
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To: CurlyDave

Harvard could easily give-up government contracts and go on discriminating if the wanted to. Their $40 billion endowment allows this.


19 posted on 10/16/2018 12:38:01 PM PDT by outpostinmass2
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To: I want the USA back

BUT from my many years of experience w/ Affirmative Action in Employment. Recruitment does not guarantee acceptance. I recruit from the under represented group but then accept the most qualified within that group. That acceptance criteria needs to be specific and measurable.

I do not agree with what they are doing, but share this to help Freepers in how the Court may look at this.


20 posted on 10/16/2018 12:38:44 PM PDT by Jimmy The Snake
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