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SOS: President Trump champions bill, saying its time to Save our Seas
Communities Digital News ^ | Oct 11, 2018 | Jacquie Kubin

Posted on 10/11/2018 8:29:44 PM PDT by E. Pluribus Unum

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To: Aliska

Recycled plastic is suitable for nothing. Most of it gets landfilled while you are looking the other way.


21 posted on 10/12/2018 3:41:52 AM PDT by E. Pluribus Unum (Democracy dies when Democrats refuse to accept the result of a democratic election they didn't win.)
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To: E. Pluribus Unum

Trump doing more for the environment and Mother Earth than dems ever imagined - by going after actual problems that can actually be solved because they really are man-made....


22 posted on 10/12/2018 3:59:12 AM PDT by trebb (So many "experts" with so little experience in what they preach....even here...)
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To: E. Pluribus Unum; blueplum
Seems to me years ago I read that US law requires plastic manufacturers to change their formulas so plastic exposed to the elements will naturally degrade faster.

Might that be a solution?
Just increase the rate of decomposition of plastics once discarded?

23 posted on 10/12/2018 4:58:08 AM PDT by BroJoeK ((a little historical perspective...))
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To: BroJoeK

Sounds nice. Where did you get your chemistry degree?


24 posted on 10/12/2018 5:02:47 AM PDT by E. Pluribus Unum (Democracy dies when Democrats refuse to accept the result of a democratic election they didn't win.)
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To: E. Pluribus Unum

It’s mind boggling how some countries still poop in their drinking waters and dump their garbage into their rivers and oceans where they fish. Obamy was all into globull warming but ignored the pollution in the oceans which is something that can actually been fixed.


25 posted on 10/12/2018 5:07:07 AM PDT by bgill (CDC site, "We don't know. how people are infected with Ebola.")
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To: E. Pluribus Unum
"Sounds nice. Where did you get your chemistry degree?"

{sigh} -- so you're not going to post a straight answer, just sharpshoot me and make me look it up myself?

OK, here it is: biodegrade & photodegrade plastics.

Implying that once the sources of new trash are stopped, the oceans will begin to clean themselves in relatively short time periods.
26 posted on 10/12/2018 5:48:21 AM PDT by BroJoeK ((a little historical perspective...))
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To: BroJoeK

In the 1970’s there was a plan in NYC to install high temp incinerator stations at the city dumps to burn the garbage. The garbage would burn at such high temperatures that there would be little to no pollution introduced into the atmosphere. Unfortunately NIMBY killed the idea.

My plan would be to take 10 retiring container ships and convert them into incineration vessels, capable of collecting the garbage and using a conveyor system, move the garbage into the incinerators. The harmless ash can then be introduced back into the water or bought by companies and used for whatever.


27 posted on 10/12/2018 5:59:14 AM PDT by EQAndyBuzz (Proud member of the DWN party. (Deplorable Wing Nut))
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To: E. Pluribus Unum
There's a good tech solution that was crowdfunded.

The Ocean Cleanup

28 posted on 10/12/2018 6:01:11 AM PDT by Lazamataz (On future maps, I suggest we remove the word "California" and substitute "Open-Air Asylum".)
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To: E. Pluribus Unum

What angers me is that the liberals demanded plastic to save trees and for the United States to reduce steel. Somehow that is lost in the message. So irritating.


29 posted on 10/12/2018 6:14:42 AM PDT by napscoordinator (Trump/Hunter, jr for President/Vice President 2016)
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To: napscoordinator
What angers me is that the liberals demanded plastic to save trees and for the United States to reduce steel. Somehow that is lost in the message. So irritating.

Much of the environmental stuff is total BS actually increasing pollution and almost always increasing costs. I have to spend $$$$$$ to replace 13 year old "environmental friendly" shingles they used in 2005 without fiberglass. 30 year shingles with fiberglass would have saved landfill space and tens of thousands of dollars.

30 posted on 10/12/2018 6:17:45 AM PDT by 1Old Pro
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To: Lazamataz

Very interesting. Although it says garbage free by 2050, I believe as they go through the process they will improve on what is being done and the timeframe shrinks.


31 posted on 10/12/2018 6:18:01 AM PDT by napscoordinator (Trump/Hunter, jr for President/Vice President 2016)
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To: E. Pluribus Unum
This plastic mess isn't some mystical government power grab, it's a huge, disgusting and dangerous immediate problem.

The US and Europe do not contribute much to this problem, but we all have to live with it. Africa and Asia need to clean up their act and we need to lean on them to stop being so insanely irresponsible.

32 posted on 10/12/2018 6:19:40 AM PDT by dead
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To: 1Old Pro

I get it. Same with refrigerators, TVs, computers, air conditioners and everything else that has, a now reduced lifespan. Liberals are the ones destroying our environment.


33 posted on 10/12/2018 6:20:35 AM PDT by napscoordinator (Trump/Hunter, jr for President/Vice President 2016)
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To: napscoordinator

That one really kills me. We used to make things that lasted decades. Now everything’s imported and low quality so we have to throw it away in a few years, especially since we can’t buy parts to repair anything.

Glass is completely recyclable. I remember going to the dump 35 years ago and they had barrels for glass. One for green glass, one for brown glass and several for clear glass. Return for deposit for glass like the old coke bottles was even better. They just cleaned them and reused them.


34 posted on 10/12/2018 6:37:47 AM PDT by Pollard (If you don't understand what I typed, you haven't read the classics.)
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To: Kriggerel

I am also presented with this stereotypical ideology quite often also. Extreme Purism can be counter productive and harmful to the faith as a whole.

There is absolutely nothing wrong with caring for the environment and being a Christian conservative. The problem is absolute radical extremism and purism in either direction.

There are indeed practical multiuse compromises that work out fine for both man and the environment. And to stereotypically associate caring for the environment as purely radical liberalism is ignorant.


35 posted on 10/12/2018 6:43:29 AM PDT by Openurmind
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To: piasa

I have read this ideology right here many times...


36 posted on 10/12/2018 6:45:40 AM PDT by Openurmind
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To: napscoordinator

“Recycling” is the biggest scam.

Some things can be recycled economically and turned into useful products. Most can’t.

Aluminum recycling works for the most part.

Plastic recycling doesn’t because the quality of recycled plastic makes it worth less than nothing. There are far too many kinds of plastics to throw them all together and make something useful.

https://blogs.scientificamerican.com/observations/more-recycling-wont-solve-plastic-pollution/

Incineration worked. It will eventually work again.


37 posted on 10/12/2018 6:46:09 AM PDT by E. Pluribus Unum (Democracy dies when Democrats refuse to accept the result of a democratic election they didn't win.)
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To: BroJoeK

The supermarket I frequent used to have plastic bags made of corn starch. [somehow]
If you threw them out in the yard to see what would happen, they pretty much dissolved fairly quick.
But they stopped using them.
No idea why.

Back in the good ol’ days, we had a burn barrel.
Everything was reduced to ashes and a tiny lump of melted plastic.
You could put a weeks’ worth of family trash in a shoe box.
But burn barrels were outlawed.

Because all that crap being buried in landfills was *so* much more environmentally friendly...somehow.


38 posted on 10/12/2018 7:56:23 AM PDT by Salamander (My Soul's On Fire... [I miss you, Shibumi])
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To: Crucial
We should take care of the environment because we live in it. We should do it for ourselves and for the benefit of lining some liberal’s pocket.

I think you meant "and not for the benefit of lining some liberal’s pocket".

39 posted on 10/12/2018 10:51:11 AM PDT by JimRed ( TERM LIMITS, NOW! Build the Wall Faster! TRUTH is the new HATE SPEECH.)
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To: JimRed

Right, it’s “not for the benefit of lining a liberal’s pocket.”

A Russian-bot must have changed my post. Yeah, that’s it. :)


40 posted on 10/12/2018 10:54:05 AM PDT by Crucial
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