Posted on 10/10/2018 4:07:38 AM PDT by Elderberry
President Trump chalked up his announcement on boosting ethanol for farmers in Iowa to his record of "promises made, promises kept," while speaking in Iowa Tuesday night.
"I made that promise to you during the campaign," Trump said. "I made that promise to you during the primaries. Promises made, promises kept."
"We're going with E15 year-round," Trump said early in his speech, admitting that the full announcement would come later in his remarks.
The plan would relax Environmental Protection Agency rules that restrict the sale of 15-percent ethanol fuel blends to eight months of the year. The EPA waiver for the E15 fuel would allow it to be sold year-round, which corn farmers and ethanol producers have been pushing the administration to do for months.
Later in the speech, Trump warned that ethanol production and E15 will be in jeopardy if Democrats take back Congress in November.
"The Dems will end ethanol, you know that," Trump said. "They're not going to approve ethanol. They will find a way to take it away. ... You better get out there and vote."
The second part of Trump's E15 plan seeks to reform the market that refiners use to buy ethanol credits in order to comply with EPA's Renewable Fuel Standard. The Renewable Identification Number credits, or RINs, have been a hot topic of debate among the oil industry.
The Trump plan is an attempt to settle a feud between the ethanol industry and refiners over the direction of the nation's renewable fuel program until Congress can agree on substantive reforms.
The refiners don't want to be subject to the high costs associated with the price of buying RINs. One company in Philadelphia said the high cost of RINs forced it to declare bankruptcy last year.
(Excerpt) Read more at washingtonexaminer.com ...
I am totally against ethanol from every thing I studied on it. But it should fall by it’s own bad merits, not regulations. So those of you upset about the loosening of regulations on this, try to trust our President Trump. This might just be what is needed to let the market and natural consequences decide its fate.
Yes, you should be able to do that.
I don't know if you could strip out the residual gasoline.
Gasoline has an initial boiling point at atmospheric pressure of about 35 °C (95 °F) and a final boiling point of about 200 °C (395 °F).
I don't think I'd drink it.
I hope it's a long term plan. I know he's campaigning hard, but this is the wrong thing to do for the country.
There are a lot of people making money from this distortion of the free market (pork).
I still disagree. Ethanol is only 1 of the uses they get out of the corn they process for ethanol. What remains is high protein feed for animals and other uses. Any comparison that only uses the value of the ethanol is an incomplete analysis
https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/policy/energy/oil-refiners-threaten-to-sue-trump-over-ethanol
President Trump will likely find himself in court over his Tuesday night decision to allow 15-percent ethanol fuel be sold year-round across the nation, according to the refinery industry's top lobbyist.
“The President’s proposal to waive the rules for E15 is unlawful and could actually make the problems of the Renewable Fuel Standard worse," Chet Thompson, president and CEO of the American Fuel and Petrochemical Manufacturers, said in a statement.
A spokeswoman for the refinery group told the Washington Examiner that it is "likely" the group will sue the administration for going ahead with the plan.
"Yes, it’s likely," said spokeswoman Ericka Perryman. She pointed out that Thompson had made clear earlier in an interview with Reuters that legal action is the only definite thing to come from Trump's action. “The only certainty from today’s actions is a lawsuit,” he said.
Is he removing all gov’t subsidies?
We ARE talking about that ONE use.
None of the others have anything AT ALL to do with the fact that it is used in gasoline.
I’m sure what you are saying is true.
It is not the topic here.
Use it for ALL the other processes.
Not one where it is not needed and indeed may be harmful to the vehicle.
As with small engines, alcohol is only a problem if the engine has not been designed to use alcohol. Cars designed for e10 use e10 just fine and get hundreds of thousands of miles of use
No surprise on many levels. But I still believe it is better to give less regulations than subsidies on ethanol. I trust President Trump. He EARNED my trust.
I have no problem with ALLOWNG E-15, as long as it’s not MANDATED, and along as it’s labeled as such. As far as I’m concerned, anyone stupid enough to buy it, is welcome to it.
I understand the President had to keep his campaign promise, but this ethanol/gas thing is just plain bad policy.
good to know.
At the end of the day, however, I must get off my lazy butt and do the research myself.
Not that it matters a whole lot now!!
Only have the car a year and don’t intend on selling it.
But i do need to read u anyway regrading various aspects, such as ethanol, which is the best oil to use, how often, if ever, to put 89 or even 91 in the car, etc.
I don’t think so. But don’t believe he is raising any subsidies. I am playing catch up with news from yesterday.
As long as I can still buy ethanol free for all my small engines.
Maybe, maybe not. If your car is rated for E-85, using E-15 shouldn't hurt it. Many, but not all currently produced cars are rated for E-85, so check your owner's manual.
However, using any blend of alcohol in your car is not economical. Ethanol contains only about half the energy per gallon as gasoline. So as you blend more and more of it with gasoline, your fuel economy gets less and less. The price difference does NOT compensate for this fuel economy loss.
Man I’m getting schooled today in ethanol usage.
I appreciate all of it.
I would guess that less than 1 percent of the people know these things.
I was not one of them.
I have a 2012 SRT8. Can you tell me a little more about this exhaust upgrade?
This will not require changing out any E10 pumps. If you don’t get E15 now at your gas station, you still won’t.
There are over two dozen states that have E15 as AN OPTION only for gas stations to possibly use. It’s not mandated in place of E10 anywhere and it still won’t be.
All this did was make E15 available through more of the year.
Corn alcohol is cheaper than gas but gives fewer MPG. Studies have shown that E15 can net savings per mile, despite this, but would only be okay for cars after 2001. Of course, water issues from alcohol can occur in these cars, too.
It appears there was no science supporting E15 not being available year ‘round.
NO ETHANOL PLEEEEESSSSEEE!
WE HAVE PLENTY OF OIL!!
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