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Suing White Supremacists: Elizabeth Sines '19 Takes on August 11-12 Organizers
VIRGINIA LAW WEEKLY ^ | August 31, 2018 | Ali Zablock

Posted on 09/25/2018 1:51:00 PM PDT by Jack Black

Elizabeth Sines '19 counter-protested the white supremacist rallies of August 11 and 12, 2017. She is currently suing the organizers of the Unite the Right rally in what is reported to be “the most notable—and comprehensive—lawsuit filed against white supremacists in years.”

Law Weekly Articles Editor Ali Zablocki '19 interviewed Sines about this groundbreaking lawsuit.

AZ: Let's start with the basics. Who exactly are you suing?

ES: I am one of several Charlottesville residents suing over two dozen white supremacists and affiliated groups. The most well-known defendants are probably Jason Kessler, Richard Spencer, and the KKK.

AZ: Who are you represented by?

ES: We are represented by lawyers from two firms: Kaplan Hecker & Fink LLP and Boies Schiller Flexner LLP. Roberta Kaplan and Karen Dunn are two of the lead attorneys. Karen is a former advisor to Hillary Clinton and served as associate counsel to Barack Obama. She was also a federal prosecutor. She is now a partner at Boies Schiller Flexner. Robbie is best known for representing Edie Windsor in United States v. Windsor (which invalidated a section of the Defense of Marriage Act and required the federal government to recognize same-sex marriages). She is also an adjunct professor at Columbia Law School. They both are absolutely incredible. Integrity First for America is providing financial support for the suit.

AZ: What are the claims?

ES: The main claim is civil conspiracy. We argue that defendants conspired to commit violence in Charlottesville, in violation of the Ku Klux Klan Act of 1871. In online discussions and posts, on websites like Discord and The Daily Stormer, to name a few, the rally’s organizers encouraged violence and planned how violence would be enacted.

AZ: Why did you decide to become a plaintiff in this lawsuit?

ES: I never want anything like this to happen again. No one should have to go through what the residents of Charlottesville have gone through this past year. I joined the lawsuit because black lives matter, because antisemitism is on the rise around the world and cannot be left unchecked, and because white supremacy is a disease. White supremacy will not go away by itself. And the fight against white supremacy must be waged everywhere—in our homes, in the voting booth, in our schools, the streets, and in the courts. Everywhere. The recent anniversary Unite the Right Rally that happened in DC? Lasted less than an hour and only thirty Nazis showed up. Because last year, activists relentlessly identified them, and so many Nazis lost their jobs, or were kicked out of schools, or were sued for brutalizing innocent people, particularly young black men, like DeAndre Harris.

AZ: What is the status of the suit?

ES: The defendants’ motion to dismiss was just denied by Judge Moon of the Western District of Virginia. We are expected to go to trial in July 2019.


TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society
KEYWORDS: altright; charlottsville; lawfare
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It's easy to read this and say "Who cares? Those Charlottsville Nazis got what the deserved!" and move on.

But before you do, please consider the following:


1 posted on 09/25/2018 1:51:00 PM PDT by Jack Black
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To: Jack Black

Where do we go to sue leftists that have ruined everything ?


2 posted on 09/25/2018 1:52:42 PM PDT by fieldmarshaldj ("It's Slappin' Time !")
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To: Jack Black

Wait until she gets hit with an anti-SLAPP countersuit. You can get big exemplary damages out of that.


3 posted on 09/25/2018 1:54:44 PM PDT by kaehurowing
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To: Jack Black

It wasn’t the two dozen white supremacists who caused the kerfuffle. Had they been ignored it would have all passed quietly. The blame goes to antifa fascists alone.


4 posted on 09/25/2018 1:55:33 PM PDT by bk1000 (I stand with Trump)
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To: Jack Black
  .. tick .. tick .. tick ..
5 posted on 09/25/2018 1:55:57 PM PDT by tomkat
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To: Jack Black

Wait until she gets hit with an anti-SLAPP countersuit under the First Amendment and Virginia law.

VIRGINIA ACTS OF ASSEMBLY — CHAPTER
An Act to amend and reenact § 8.01-223.2 of the Code of Virginia, relating to immunity of persons; defamation; statements regarding matters of public concern communicated to a third party.
[S 1413]
Approved

Be it enacted by the General Assembly of Virginia:

1. That § 8.01-223.2 of the Code of Virginia is amended and reenacted as follows:

§ 8.01-223.2. Immunity of persons for statements made at public hearing or communicated to third party.

A. A person shall be immune from civil liability for a violation of § 18.2-499 or, a claim of tortious interference with an existing contract or a business or contractual expectancy, or a claim of defamation based solely on statements (i) regarding matters of public concern that would be protected under the First Amendment to the United States Constitution made by that person that are communicated to a third party or (ii) made at a public hearing before the governing body of any locality or other political subdivision, or the boards, commissions, agencies and authorities thereof, and other governing bodies of any local governmental entity concerning matters properly before such body. The immunity provided by this section shall not apply to any statements made with actual or constructive knowledge that they are false, or with reckless disregard for whether they are false.

B. Any person who has a suit against him dismissed pursuant to the immunity provided by this section may be awarded reasonable attorney fees and costs.


6 posted on 09/25/2018 1:57:31 PM PDT by kaehurowing
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To: Jack Black
We are represented by lawyers from two firms: Kaplan Hecker & Fink LLP and Boies Schiller Flexner LLP. Roberta Kaplan and Karen Dunn are two of the lead attorneys. Karen is a former advisor to Hillary Clinton and served as associate counsel to Barack Obama. She was also a federal prosecutor. She is now a partner at Boies Schiller Flexner. Robbie is best known for representing Edie Windsor in United States v. Windsor (which invalidated a section of the Defense of Marriage Act and required the federal government to recognize same-sex marriages).

This tells me all I need to know.

7 posted on 09/25/2018 1:58:06 PM PDT by TADSLOS (I hate Russian Dolls. They are so full of themselves.)
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To: Jack Black

This is the difference between the Right and the Left. The Left goes after the Right with lawsuits like this. The Right doesn’t do anything. The people who have been assaulted at Antifa rallies could sue too. Antifa is more organized and there is a ton more evidence that they are deliberately trying to attack people than any “white supremacist” rally. The Right needs to start doing this to the Left.


8 posted on 09/25/2018 1:59:46 PM PDT by Opinionated Blowhard (When the people find that they can vote themselves money, that will herald the end of the republic.)
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To: Jack Black

Sounds like something on which I,if a juror,would vote “not one red penny”.


9 posted on 09/25/2018 2:01:56 PM PDT by Gay State Conservative (I've Never Owned Slaves...You've Never Picked Cotton.End Of "Discussion".)
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To: Jack Black

Bttt.

5.56mm


10 posted on 09/25/2018 2:16:42 PM PDT by M Kehoe (DRAIN THE SWAMP!)
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To: Jack Black

Things aren’t always what liberals imagine them to be:


Corrina Mehiel

http://www.americanthinker.com/articles/2017/03/white_social_justice_warrior_dies_at_hands_of_black_killer_.html

“Just a few days after she was photographed with Nancy Pelosi grinning in approval, friends found Mehiel tied up, stabbed, tortured, and ultimately dead at the hands of El Hadji Alpha Madiou Toure, a black man arrested driving her car and using her debit card.

He said he didn’t do it.”

“Her belief in black victimization came, she said, at an early age when her mother read to her the book that would change her life: It Takes a Village, by Hillary Rodham Clinton.”


David Ruenzel

http://www.americanthinker.com/articles/2014/12/black_crime_claims_life_of_apologist_for_black_crime.html

“Some liberals, most of which are ego-soaked, look for ways to support their self-perceived importance so they champion imaginary causes for that purpose,” Newburn said. “They are adult-children who feel free to construct fantasies about their greatness. Their narcissism in part functions to blind them to inconvenient realities. So to compensate, they idealize the targets of their misdirected and pathological ‘caring.’”


11 posted on 09/25/2018 2:29:48 PM PDT by SaveFerris (Luke 17:28 ... as it was in the days of Lot; they did eat, they drank, they bought, they sold ......)
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To: Jack Black

what’s with the ‘19 tag?


12 posted on 09/25/2018 2:44:04 PM PDT by camle (keep and open mind and someone will fill it full of something for you)
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To: kaehurowing

And when we fought for the SLAPP suit law the legislators didn’t want to include the attorneys fees in it. We felt that they were critical for the effectiveness of the law and we finally got them inserted.


13 posted on 09/25/2018 2:45:26 PM PDT by mistfree (It's a very uncreative man who can't think of more than one way to spell a word.)
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To: bk1000

“It wasn’t the two dozen white supremacists who caused the kerfuffle.”

How do you know they were ‘white supremacists’? You fell for the left’s trap and let them define the narrative. It’s like the Progs calling everything the don’t agree with ‘racist’ and the conservatives twist themselves into pretzels denying it.


14 posted on 09/25/2018 2:45:33 PM PDT by dljordan (WhoVoltaire: "To find out who rules over you, simply find out who you are not allowed to criticize.")
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To: Jack Black

It’s bullshit

Folks need to see who these law firms are

they are leftist law firms ....I looked them up months ago

Nope not liberal Jews

Liberal Indians...I kid u not

Why not sue ANTIFA......


15 posted on 09/25/2018 2:49:10 PM PDT by wardaddy (I donÂ’t care that youÂ’re not a racist......The Hill just zotted me for saying libtard)
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To: Jack Black

So who gets the money? Is there in fact any “standing” for this person and group to sue and who’s going to benefit from this law suit? Shouldn’t it be the local government and the DA’s decision to sue? The logic of this suit escapes me.


16 posted on 09/25/2018 3:05:00 PM PDT by mdmathis6
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To: dljordan

Perhaps I should have said “alleged white supremacists”.


17 posted on 09/25/2018 3:15:39 PM PDT by bk1000 (I stand with Trump)
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To: camle
what’s with the ‘19 tag?

Student, class of 2019.

18 posted on 09/25/2018 3:19:05 PM PDT by PapaBear3625 (“Those who can make you believe absurdities, can make you commit atrocities.” Voltaire)
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To: fieldmarshaldj

Like BLM and Antifa?
Soros?

Her suit will get tossed. Nobody has a right to prohibit the free assembly of people.


19 posted on 09/25/2018 3:21:39 PM PDT by Roman_War_Criminal (Like Enoch, Noah, & Lot, the True Church will soon be removed & then destruction comes forth.)
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To: bk1000; Jack Black
Sines v. Kessler

Here is the PDF file of the complete suit with a lot of details about the individuals and groups listed as defendents as well as how the events were planned and implemented by the co-conspirators. it also goes thru the details of the day.

I'm sure the lawyers had access to lot of data and investigative sources but Unicorn Riot furnished a lot of it

20 posted on 09/25/2018 4:41:51 PM PDT by Ben Ficklin
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