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Rift Between Police, Feds Allowed New Mexico Terror Compound To Fester
The Federalist ^ | September 14, 2018 | Kyle Shideler

Posted on 09/14/2018 2:41:55 PM PDT by detective

Questions keep coming about how the U.S. justice system responded to a New Mexico compound that housed five alleged would-be jihadists and 11 reportedly malnourished children along with the remains of a twelfth child who died on the compound.

A federal grand jury recently indicted the five alleged jihadists on weapons and conspiracy charges, alleging the group created their compound in the desert outside Taos, New Mexico as a training camp and firing range to facilitate a “Common plan to prepare for violent attacks government, military, educational and financial institutions” and sought to “engage in jihad and form an army of jihad” according to the federal indictment published by the Department of Justice on September 11.

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TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Editorial; Government; News/Current Events; US: Georgia; US: New Mexico
KEYWORDS: fbi; muslims; newmexico; taos; terrorists
What was the FBI doing with the Muslim terror compound in New Mexico?

A local officer told neighbors law enforcement’s “hands were tied” by the FBI.

“‘We’ve gotten multiple calls on this child but, at the same time, our hands are tied because the FBI has whatever they got going on up there with them,’” CNN quoted the officer as saying, according to a recording the news channel acquired.

This would not be the first case in which a disconnect between federal and local officials led to potential danger for a local community. In Garland, Texas, a free speech protest and cartoon contest on May 3, 2015 was targeted by two Islamic State-linked jihadists armed with rifles, Elton Simpson and Nadir Soofi. The attack took place while an undercover FBI agent shadowed the two attackers and took pictures.

While the FBI says they warned Garland police that the two may have had an interest in the target, police guarding the event say they were never warned of an impending assault. Simpson and Soofi injured a security guard before being shot dead by a quick-acting Garland police officer.

1 posted on 09/14/2018 2:41:55 PM PDT by detective
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To: detective

Despite all the hit movies for the FBI comes in and says we’re taking this over, local law enforcement is absolutely free to proceed with an arrest when they see a crime. It’s not an excuse to say the FBI wouldn’t let us. At least so far, the FBI is not a direct Notch above local law enforcement in a chain of command sense.


2 posted on 09/14/2018 2:45:28 PM PDT by DesertRhino (Dog is man's best friend, and moslems hate dogs. Add that up. ....)
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To: DesertRhino

I’ve been watching some Australian TV and the apparently have the same dramatic conflict between locals and feds. On some casses the locals want to arrest for a local crime and the feds ask them to hold off because they are going after those higher up


3 posted on 09/14/2018 2:49:35 PM PDT by bert ((KE. N.P. N.C. +12) Muller..... conspiracy to over throw the government)
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To: detective

The Sheriff overrules the FBI.
Time the FBI was reminded.


4 posted on 09/14/2018 2:54:10 PM PDT by MrEdd (Caveat Emptor)
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To: MrEdd

I guarantee it is complicated by the granting of Federal dollars and resources to local p.d. in good standing. Plus everyone knows each other. Particularly in new Mexico


5 posted on 09/14/2018 3:32:17 PM PDT by DariusBane (Liberty and Risk. Flip sides of the same coin. So how much risk will YOU accept? Vive Deo et Vives)
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To: detective

And who bulldozed the compound destroying any remaining evidence?


6 posted on 09/14/2018 3:48:50 PM PDT by Lyndal
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To: CedarDave

Ping


7 posted on 09/14/2018 3:53:36 PM PDT by Lurkina.n.Learnin (Wisdom and education are different things. Don't confuse them.)
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To: detective

The FIB put them on a watch list where they don’t really watch them until the jihadis drive off to the school to do the shooting where they will follow them to see what they do,,

Later the FIB wail claim that they knew all along and everything is ubder their control.

See Garland?, TX shooting.


8 posted on 09/14/2018 4:12:03 PM PDT by Paladin2
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To: detective; All
Given the constitutionally enumerated range of crimes that the Founding States authorized the states to deal with, I don't see why a state has to wait for federal government response on a crime-related issue.
Article IV, Section 2, Clause 2: A Person charged in any State with Treason, Felony, or other Crime [emphasis added], who shall flee from Justice, and be found in another State, shall on Demand of the executive Authority of the State from which he fled, be delivered up, to be removed to the State having Jurisdiction of the Crime.

Note that Clause 2 above says, "A Person [emphasis added] charged in any State with …," instead of, "A Citizen charged in any state with …," shall be returned to that state for trial.

So since states not only have constitutional authority to try non-citizens for treason for example, but can also have the person returned to state where alleged treason was committed for trial, then other than martial law, I don't see where feds have the constitutional power to order a state to stand down concerning a crime committed in that state.

Corrections, insights welcome.

In fact, the congressional record shows that Rep. John Bingham, the main author of Section 1 of the 14th Amendment, had clarified that the states have never expressly constitutionally delegated to the feds have the specific power to make punitive civil laws.

"Our Constitution never conferred upon the Congress of the United States the power - sacred as life is, first as it is before all other rights which pertain to man on this side of the grave - to protect it in time of peace by the terrors of the penal code within organized states; and Congress has never attempted to do it. There never was a law upon the United States statute-book to punish the murderer for taking away in time of peace the life of the noblest, and the most unoffending, as well, of your citizens, within the limits of any State of the Union, The protection of the citizen in that respect was left to the respective States, and there the power is to-day [emphasis added].” —Rep. John Bingham, Congressional Globe. (See bottom half of third column.)

Note that Bingham had clarified this point because the 14th Amendment gives Congress the power to make punitive civil laws that discourage state actors from abridging rights that the states amend the Constitution to expressly protect.

9 posted on 09/14/2018 4:22:58 PM PDT by Amendment10
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To: MrEdd

“The Sheriff overrules the FBI.”

Correct, but they get so many goodies from the Feds they generally don’t want to rock the boat. Just my opinion.


10 posted on 09/14/2018 4:49:28 PM PDT by dljordan (WhoVoltaire: "To find out who rules over you, simply find out who you are not allowed to criticize.")
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To: detective

That little boy is dead because the Famous But Incompetent let him die there even though he was a reported kidnapped child and there was a warrant for his father.

They knew all this and did nothing because why? What freaking was more important that they sat on their hands and did nothing?

The FBI is a useless, lazy, corrupt agency and it should simply be ended.


11 posted on 09/14/2018 6:00:43 PM PDT by Valpal1
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To: DesertRhino

A very, very large majority of FBI Agents coulnd’t hold a candle to local law enforcement. A VERY LARGE MAJORITY.

Having worked with them, the ones that are legit, used to be former cops or military guys that had some years in their previous jobs. The college kids were absolutely abysmal. But to see and hear them, you’d think they were all a combination of Jack Bauer and Jason Bourne with a navy blue windbreaker.


12 posted on 09/15/2018 9:19:40 AM PDT by qaz123
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To: DesertRhino

The Sheriff tops everyone’s authority. It is a more important office than the presidency. Between your doorstep and the government is your sherrif. Don’t elect a sheriff like this town has. Support a Constitutional sheriff, or be ruled.


13 posted on 09/16/2018 4:26:41 AM PDT by momincombatboots (How many vetoed spending dollars with chuck n Nancy without wall funding?)
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To: detective
Rift Between Police, Feds Allowed New Mexico Terror Compound To Fester

Have we forgeotten the cluster**** that was the search for desperadoes in the Four Corners area in the late ninties??

14 posted on 09/16/2018 4:38:03 AM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: dljordan

The Golden Rule.


15 posted on 09/16/2018 4:40:23 AM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: detective

the rift is actually fbi corruption


16 posted on 09/19/2018 5:35:04 AM PDT by ßuddaßudd ((>> M A G A << "What the hell kind of country is this if I can only hate a man if he's white?")
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To: ßuddaßudd

This is what happened, on a larger scale, in England, when the entire city of Birmingham was a “NO GO” to police.

What a total and absolute disgrace.

Please, America, maintain our reputation of Law and Order.


17 posted on 09/19/2018 5:38:50 AM PDT by Maris Crane
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