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Justices let stand order that climate researchers hand over University of Arizona emails
Tuson.com ^ | August 30, 2018 | Howard Fischer

Posted on 08/31/2018 5:55:46 AM PDT by yesthatjallen

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The public is being told governments must spend trillions of dollars to 'combat man-made global warming'.

As such the public has a right to know how climate researching is carried out and the integrity of the research.

If 'the science is settled' why don't they want the public to see how the science is done?

1 posted on 08/31/2018 5:55:46 AM PDT by yesthatjallen
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And if the science is true and can be tested then why wouldn’t they want everyone to have that information? Why the need for secrecy?


2 posted on 08/31/2018 5:58:13 AM PDT by punknpuss
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To: yesthatjallen

It’s contrary to the best interests of The State donchaknow?


3 posted on 08/31/2018 5:58:24 AM PDT by a fool in paradise
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I sense a "glitch" about to happen.


4 posted on 08/31/2018 6:00:28 AM PDT by John 3_19-21 (Opinions do not change the world, change requires action.)
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To: yesthatjallen

Bump


5 posted on 08/31/2018 6:00:46 AM PDT by Oldeconomybuyer (The problem with socialism is that you eventually run out of other people's money.)
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If it’s pure science then the emails shouldn’t matter.


6 posted on 08/31/2018 6:02:26 AM PDT by DouglasKC
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To: yesthatjallen

Remember submitting your experiment conclusions in high school chemistry, but weren’t required to show your calculations or adherence to the scientific process?

Me neither.


7 posted on 08/31/2018 6:02:54 AM PDT by ConservativeWarrior (Fall down 7 times, stand up 8. - Japanese proverb)
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To: yesthatjallen

The old rule still applies...the one that says “follow the money”.


8 posted on 08/31/2018 6:08:34 AM PDT by oldtech
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WHY WOULD THEY WANT TO HIDE THEM?

There is no reason science is hidden unless you have something to hide.

ALL Scientific studies that are worth a darn are subject to ‘peer-review’.

These people have already admitted to the single most cardinal sin in science.

There are many levels of bad science.

The first is when you get data, analyze it, and come to the wrong conclusions. That’s FINE and to be expected, and why peer review is so important. Someone else may see something you missed.

The next is getting data and DELIBERATELY ignoring it to show only the results you want. This happens when they have a result they want in their head, and are blinded or choose to see something else. This is also discoverable in peer-review when someone else looks at the data.

But the absolute WORST thing you can do is get data, delete anything that does not agree with what you want. You cannot go back and look at the data and fix anything in peer-review. Money was wasted and the entire study needs to be done again.

This is what these alleged ‘scientists’ have already admitted to.

This should be cause for immediate termination and never being hired to do any science again. This is why they don’t want their emails to be seen. The contents were already leaked, and we know what they say. They admit to deleting stuff that did not ‘prove’ climate change.


9 posted on 08/31/2018 6:09:48 AM PDT by Mr. K (No consequence of repealing Obamacare is worse than Obamacare itself.)
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I am not retired. I don’t follow this story well. I have like 10 minutes to catch the real news in the morning, like Freep, liberty daily, etc.

I can’t determine if this story is good or bad from the title or first paragraph. I think a lot of folks think everyone is intimately familiar with their hot button stories..a couple of descriptors would have been good...like was the judge a liberal Obama appointee?


10 posted on 08/31/2018 6:13:28 AM PDT by CincyRichieRich (17...#1776)
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The courts are going to allow us to violate the sacred scrolls?


11 posted on 08/31/2018 6:17:50 AM PDT by jimfree (My18 y/o granddaughter continues to have more quality exec experience than an 8 year Obama.)
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Remember that the scientific method is based entirely on the notion of a free exchange of information (publication, etc.) Anthropogenic climate change alarmists are a different breed: the first we’ve seen to suppress, silence, and shun. Look at Pat Michaels, VA State Climatologist, and so many others - fired for opinions, based on scientific evidence. Somewhere, Galileo is laughing... Or crying.


12 posted on 08/31/2018 6:21:46 AM PDT by golux
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

Ping.


13 posted on 08/31/2018 6:34:12 AM PDT by Army Air Corps (Four Fried Chickens and a Coke)
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To: John 3_19-21

That “glitch” would also have to be present in the backups.


14 posted on 08/31/2018 6:35:11 AM PDT by Army Air Corps (Four Fried Chickens and a Coke)
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To: John 3_19-21

OK!! Everybody pay attention!
Lesson for today:
1. The sun is 1,300,000 times as big as the earth.
2. The sun is a giant nuclear furnace that controls the climates of all its planets.
3. The earth is one of the sun’s planets.
4. The earth is a speck in comparison to the size of the sun.
5. Inhabitants of the earth are less than specks.
Study Question: How do less-than-specks in congress plan to control the sun?


15 posted on 08/31/2018 6:38:13 AM PDT by abclily
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To: Mr. K
They need to hide their manipulations of the "science" to get the desired results. That's not science that's politics. The whole issue has been fraudulent right from the start. The first IPCC report, back in 1988 iirc, was very dubious of finding any man made effect. It was altered by partisans, after it had been reviewed and approved for publication, to suggest the opposite. This has been documented by skeptics and other ethical researchers with access to the inside story.
16 posted on 08/31/2018 6:56:49 AM PDT by hinckley buzzard (Power is more often surrendered than seized.)
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The "glitch: I was referring to was in regards to releasing the emails. I expect them to be "lost" or incomplete.


17 posted on 08/31/2018 7:00:58 AM PDT by John 3_19-21 (Opinions do not change the world, change requires action.)
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To: John 3_19-21

Oh, absolutely.


18 posted on 08/31/2018 7:04:23 AM PDT by Army Air Corps (Four Fried Chickens and a Coke)
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To: yesthatjallen

Mark Steyn tried to force the release of Michael Mann’s emails and work while at UVA and UPenn and was denied.
I wonder if that ruling could be revisited in view of this finding.


19 posted on 08/31/2018 7:23:13 AM PDT by outofsalt (If history teaches us anything, it's that history rarely teaches us anything.)
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To: abclily

Maybe the All Mighty and Knowledgeable Q has the answer.


20 posted on 08/31/2018 7:29:03 AM PDT by Labyrinthos
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