Posted on 08/31/2018 5:55:46 AM PDT by yesthatjallen
An organization that questions the role of humans in climate change is going to get access to the emails and records of work done by two scientists at the University of Arizona in its bid to argue that their research is flawed.
The Arizona Supreme Court on Wednesday rejected a last-ditch effort by the Arizona Board of Regents to overturn lower court rulings that ordered the documents immediately released. While the justices did not comment on their decision, they effectively rejected arguments by the Board of Regents that release would be “contrary to the best interests of the state.”
David Schnare, attorney for the Energy & Environment Legal Institute, said the only question that remains is how quickly the university will surrender the documents his organization first sought seven years ago.
At the heart of the legal battle are emails and other documents from Jonathan Overpeck and Malcolm Hughes, who both specialize in research on climate change.
Schnare said E&E is particularly interested in their work since it became a crucial part of a report that linked human activity to global warming. And that report, in turn, has become the basis for policy changes that have sought to move away from the use of fossil fuels for energy generation because of the production of “greenhouse” gases like carbon dioxide.
What the institute wants to see, Schnare said, is the interaction the pair had with other scientists as the report was being prepared. He said that should reveal if there were comments from others “that were never included or never seriously considered.”
“How these reports are put together and how these comments are dealt with is a valid question with regards to reliance on this report,” Schnare said. “One has to ask, just because they claim they had a lot of experts involved, was it an honest piece of work or not.”
Messages left with Hughes, who is still at the UA, and Overpeck who is now with the University of Michigan, were not immediately returned.
Schnare said he is not saying that either scientists did anything wrong or even that their research is erroneous. But he said the only way questions can be answered is through full release of all the documents that were being considered.
Still, Schnare acknowledged that his client has a bias of sorts. E&E describes itself as a nonprofit that engages in litigation to hold accountable “those who seek excessive and destructive government regulation that’s based on agenda-driving policy making, junk science and hysteria.”
He said E&E does not doubt the climate has been changing. And Schnare is even willing to say there is some evidence that temperatures are rising.
The question, he said, is why.
“The globe’s been warming up because of that cool period we had,” he said, going back to the Ice Age.
“There’s only one direction to go and that’s up,” Schnare continued. “And at some point there’s only going to be one direction to go. It’s going to be down again.”
And he said the theories that increased production of greenhouse gases traps heat and is causing major temperature changes is not necessarily borne out by the research.
In filing the original lawsuit, Schnare said Overpeck was prominent in the “cause” of global warming, including “activism for environmental pressure groups.”
Schnare also said the pair came to his group’s attention after a server at a British university was hacked, disclosing thousands of email exchanges between academics and others involved in climate research.
Some of what was found was labeled “climategate” and is being used by groups to show that global warming is just a conspiracy.
As such the public has a right to know how climate researching is carried out and the integrity of the research.
If 'the science is settled' why don't they want the public to see how the science is done?
And if the science is true and can be tested then why wouldn’t they want everyone to have that information? Why the need for secrecy?
It’s contrary to the best interests of The State donchaknow?
Bump
If it’s pure science then the emails shouldn’t matter.
Remember submitting your experiment conclusions in high school chemistry, but weren’t required to show your calculations or adherence to the scientific process?
Me neither.
The old rule still applies...the one that says “follow the money”.
WHY WOULD THEY WANT TO HIDE THEM?
There is no reason science is hidden unless you have something to hide.
ALL Scientific studies that are worth a darn are subject to ‘peer-review’.
These people have already admitted to the single most cardinal sin in science.
There are many levels of bad science.
The first is when you get data, analyze it, and come to the wrong conclusions. That’s FINE and to be expected, and why peer review is so important. Someone else may see something you missed.
The next is getting data and DELIBERATELY ignoring it to show only the results you want. This happens when they have a result they want in their head, and are blinded or choose to see something else. This is also discoverable in peer-review when someone else looks at the data.
But the absolute WORST thing you can do is get data, delete anything that does not agree with what you want. You cannot go back and look at the data and fix anything in peer-review. Money was wasted and the entire study needs to be done again.
This is what these alleged ‘scientists’ have already admitted to.
This should be cause for immediate termination and never being hired to do any science again. This is why they don’t want their emails to be seen. The contents were already leaked, and we know what they say. They admit to deleting stuff that did not ‘prove’ climate change.
I am not retired. I don’t follow this story well. I have like 10 minutes to catch the real news in the morning, like Freep, liberty daily, etc.
I can’t determine if this story is good or bad from the title or first paragraph. I think a lot of folks think everyone is intimately familiar with their hot button stories..a couple of descriptors would have been good...like was the judge a liberal Obama appointee?
The courts are going to allow us to violate the sacred scrolls?
Remember that the scientific method is based entirely on the notion of a free exchange of information (publication, etc.) Anthropogenic climate change alarmists are a different breed: the first we’ve seen to suppress, silence, and shun. Look at Pat Michaels, VA State Climatologist, and so many others - fired for opinions, based on scientific evidence. Somewhere, Galileo is laughing... Or crying.
Ping.
That “glitch” would also have to be present in the backups.
OK!! Everybody pay attention!
Lesson for today:
1. The sun is 1,300,000 times as big as the earth.
2. The sun is a giant nuclear furnace that controls the climates of all its planets.
3. The earth is one of the sun’s planets.
4. The earth is a speck in comparison to the size of the sun.
5. Inhabitants of the earth are less than specks.
Study Question: How do less-than-specks in congress plan to control the sun?
Oh, absolutely.
Mark Steyn tried to force the release of Michael Mann’s emails and work while at UVA and UPenn and was denied.
I wonder if that ruling could be revisited in view of this finding.
Maybe the All Mighty and Knowledgeable Q has the answer.
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