Posted on 08/24/2018 9:32:30 AM PDT by Sir Napsalot
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REP. AL GREEN: "... Impeachment is something that the Framers of the Constitution provided for a time such as this and a president such as Trump. The president does not have to commit a crime to be impeached. In fact, the president is not likely to be indicted, which means he’s not likely to be found guilty of a crime while he’s sitting, which means that if this comes before the House, it won’t come before the House as a president who has been found guilty, but rather as a president who is alleged to have committed certain offenses that are onerous to the Constitution and that harm society. And what this president is doing is harming society.More specifically, what Mr. Cohen stated in court—he had a lawyer. He is a lawyer. He says that he and the president of the United States conspired. He didn’t use that exact word, but that’s what it means when you say the president directed you, and you followed through. So they conspired to commit an offense. The president may never be found guilty of it, but he can be impeached for it.
It’s my opinion that the Judiciary Committee is not doing its job. This whole impeachment investigation is being outsourced. The Framers of the Constitution intended for the Judiciary Committee to do this—gather information, make decisions, move forward. If the Judiciary Committee doesn’t move forward, then I think it’s incumbent upon the 435 members, each of whom have the opportunity to bring articles of impeachment, to consider doing so. I will surely consider doing so. ..."
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F*** You Al Green.
Well, at least the leftists are open now about their strong anti-democracy tendencies. They have never wanted regular Americans controlling the government or their own lives. That’s the real reason Dems think elections should only matter if they win.
Well, based on his assessment, Obama should not only have been impeached, but hanged for treason.
Extremely Fugly Al Green is possibly the ugliest man on the face of the earth—no exaggeration.
But his hatefulness and stupidity are even more extreme. He’s been screaming for impeachment since literally day one. Why? Because the @ssholes on his side lost, and we won.
Let this fugly, stupid and hateful man be another face of the Rat party.
That's false. Words in the Constitution have meaning. If not, then the Constitution has no meaning. The words "crimes and misdemeanor" had an intended meaning by the founders.
, and there is no ability to appeal it.
That's true.
“These people don’t read the U.S. Constitution. How can they pretend to govern?”
Mob rule. They think they can excite the ignorant masses into rioting. They can say whatever they want without any consequences.
“What ever that is. As long as congress is behind removing Trump at any cost, there is nothing we can do in the short term.”
Every congresscritter that votes to impeach had better watch his or her back. For the rest of their miserable lives.
IF the impeachment process is initiated and somehow gotten through (i.e., 218 representative deciding), then this constitutes a Constitutional Crisis.
It is anybody's guess what will happen next.
Wrong, Green. 218 members of the House can make a referral, but it takes 67 Senators to vote to remove him from office, which..
WILL NOT HAPPEN!
I'm really kind of surprised at the lack of civic awareness on this issue. The only explanation I have is that when people see the words "high crimes", they believe that there must be some sort of criminal activity requirement to impeachment.
You must have missed the “...for high crimes or misdemeanors...” part.
Or shot.
If the impeachment process is initiated by a majority vote of representatives, that is not a Constitutional crisis. That is exactly what the Constitution requires.
If there is no ability to appeal the decision by the House of Representatives to impeach, then the words "high crimes and misdemeanors" are defined any way the House decides. I'm really kind of surprised at the lack of civic awareness on this issue. The only explanation I have is that when people see the words "high crimes", they believe that there must be some sort of criminal activity requirement to impeachment.
As I said, words in the Constitution have an intended meaning. If not, the phrase "high crimes and misdemeanors" would not have been written into the Constitution. Instead the words similar to, "you can impeach the president for any reason" would have been written into the Constitution.
Impeachment and conviction for the wrong reason, is unconstitutional.
The Constitutional remedies are elections and Amendment II.
If those don't work, then you're out of luck. After all it's a "republic if you can keep it".
I'm surprised you don't understand that.
Perhaps you're a utopian. "Whatevs" indeed.
I'm not so sure about that. I see a vote in the Senate going something like this, and even if you quibble with two or three, it's pretty clear 60 can be breached with ease and that does not bode well given the jelly spines of Senate Republicans.
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Hi.
You do know that McCain, Flake, Corker and others will be gone before any impeachment legislation will arrive in the Senate.
The President won’t be impeached, let alone be convicted in the Senate.
5.56mm
Not if he has a pen and a phone (e g Obama)
On that list, only Gardner, Heller and Collins are not in a pro Trump states. I don’t think the president would be removed.
That’s a fair point.i am looking only at the current, but it still bothers me that 60 can gotten so easily.
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