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How Trump’s Plan for Immigrants on Welfare Could Hurt a Million New Yorkers (100 year old law)
NY Times ^ | 8/13/18 | Liz Robbins

Posted on 08/18/2018 1:11:23 PM PDT by Libloather

Buying fresh vegetables for children, heating an apartment, using Medicaid to manage diabetes. Those are all legal means of support provided by the government for low-income residents of the United States.

But a new rule in the works from the Trump administration would make it difficult, if not impossible, for immigrants who use those benefits to obtain green cards.

**SNIP**

The administration’s plan is based on the more than 100-year-old law of “public charge,” later defined by government guidance in 1999: A person who is very likely to become “primarily dependent” on government services cannot become a legal permanent resident. The rule also applies to visa applicants from abroad or people seeking to extend a temporary visa within the United States.

Currently, only cash benefits, like Temporary Assistance for Needy Families, or long-term institutional care are factors considered when determining if a person is likely to become a “public charge.”

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TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Editorial; Government; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: aliens; cuomo; illegal; immigrants; ny; trump; welfare
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Deport the children first?
1 posted on 08/18/2018 1:11:23 PM PDT by Libloather
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Um ok. Let de minimus in kind benefits up to a certain low level be exempt. Make food benefits in kind. spam, bulk cheese, dried milk. No EBT charge cards.


2 posted on 08/18/2018 1:15:50 PM PDT by Pearls Before Swine ("It's always a party when you're eating the seed corn.")
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difficult, if not impossible, for immigrants who use those benefits to obtain green cards.

Send them back to their own countries to support them.

3 posted on 08/18/2018 1:20:19 PM PDT by MUDDOG
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... So let me get this straight ..... The 100 year old law later defined by government guidance in 1999 is the fault of Donald J Trump who was elected to the Presidency in 2016? ..... OK .... Got it.


4 posted on 08/18/2018 1:20:49 PM PDT by R_Kangel ("A nation of sheep will beget a nation ruled by wolves")
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To: Libloather

Illegals I assume.


5 posted on 08/18/2018 1:20:53 PM PDT by Williams (Stop tolerating the intolerant.)
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To: Libloather

Deport all illegals. No exceptions.

Deny citizenship to legal immigrants who use welfare, and send them back home. No exceptions.

Welcome those legal immigrants whose skills benefit the United States and in particular those who benefit working Americans.


6 posted on 08/18/2018 1:21:23 PM PDT by Pollster1 ("Governments derive their just powers from the consent of the governed")
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Do immigrants qualify for public assistance?

Are we letting people in who are dependent on government services 'fresh off the boat'?

7 posted on 08/18/2018 1:21:40 PM PDT by yesthatjallen
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To: Libloather

Buying fresh vegetables for children, heating an apartment, using Medicaid to manage diabetes. Those are all legal means of support provided by the government for low-income residents of the United States.

But a new rule in the works from the Trump administration would make it difficult, if not impossible, for immigrants who use those benefits to obtain green cards.

Any child would cheer hearing vegetables are off the menu.


8 posted on 08/18/2018 1:23:57 PM PDT by Flick Lives ("When they go low, we go spy." - Hillary Clinton campaign slogan)
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To: Libloather
Are we now to be told that it's “racist” to apply the standards used with over half a century of overwhelmingly White Europeans immigrants to today's non-White non-European immigrants?
9 posted on 08/18/2018 1:24:03 PM PDT by drpix
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WINNING!!!

10 posted on 08/18/2018 1:24:52 PM PDT by Chode ( WeÂ’re America, Bitch!)
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To: Pearls Before Swine

I disagree.

Nothing in support for immigrants, illegal or otherwise.

If they can’t support themselves here, they can’t come here.


11 posted on 08/18/2018 1:25:25 PM PDT by Grimmy (equivocation is but the first step along the road to capitulation)
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To: Pearls Before Swine

Why? Why should we be taking such immigrants onto the path to citizenship? And why should taxpayers be paying for them now, let alone in perpetuity, likely for their generations to come?


12 posted on 08/18/2018 1:27:09 PM PDT by 9YearLurker
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But a new rule in the works from the Trump administration would make it difficult, if not impossible, for immigrants who use those benefits to obtain green cards.

I thought all LEGAL immigrants had Green Cards. What am I missing?

13 posted on 08/18/2018 1:27:40 PM PDT by Cowboy Bob ("Other People's Money" = The life blood of Liberalism)
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Yes, sponsors sign (or at least they used to) forms that the immigrant will not be a burden to the taxpayer. If the immigrant requires financial support, the sponsor should have to pay.

If there is no sponsor, Gov. Brown (either one) should have to pay.


14 posted on 08/18/2018 1:28:39 PM PDT by scrabblehack
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To: Libloather
A person who is very likely to become “primarily dependent” on government services cannot become a legal permanent resident.

I believe there are many nations that apply this standard to some degree. But if America does, then somehow it is the worst thing ever.

When immigrants came here legally and went through Ellis Island, they had to have sponsors to ensure they did not become dependent on the state. I remember seeing this on paperwork for some of my ancestors who came here that way.
15 posted on 08/18/2018 1:30:52 PM PDT by LostInBayport (When there are more people riding in the cart than there are pulling it, the cart stops moving...)
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My Mom was subject to this law when she came over in 48. I see no reason that this law should be enforced today.


16 posted on 08/18/2018 1:36:48 PM PDT by p. henry
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To: Flick Lives
'Low-income "residents"... make it impossible, for "immigrants" who use those benefits to obtain green cards?'

"Immigrants and legal residents" already have green cards!"

Forget the FAKE News Orwellian NewSpeak. They're not "using" those benefits, they're stealing those benefits!

17 posted on 08/18/2018 1:38:37 PM PDT by drpix
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To: yesthatjallen

Yes


18 posted on 08/18/2018 1:38:38 PM PDT by xzins (Retired US Army chaplain. Support our troops by praying for their victory.)
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To: Flick Lives
LOL! Buying fresh vegetables for children? Ho, ho, ho.

More like Cocoa Puffs, Trix, Twinkies, Hawaiian Punch. Do they think they are going to get shoeless, screaming feral chicos and chicas with poop in their pants to eat carrots? Give me a break.
 

19 posted on 08/18/2018 1:38:39 PM PDT by Governor Dinwiddie ("Nature, Mr. Allnut, is what we are put in this world to rise above.")
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To: Libloather

This is an Invasion. Pure and simple.

Since Ryan and McConnell REFUSE to fund the border wall, it might be time to call in the US military to stop the invasion.

20 posted on 08/18/2018 1:41:18 PM PDT by SkyPilot ("I am the way and the truth and the life. No one comes to the Father except through me." John 14:6)
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