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To reduce urban violence, let's consider the real causes — not guns, police or 'low' taxes
The Hill ^ | 08 18 2018 | CHRIS TALGO,

Posted on 08/18/2018 9:25:19 AM PDT by yesthatjallen

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1 posted on 08/18/2018 9:25:19 AM PDT by yesthatjallen
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Since I work in manufacturing I’ve learned about finding root causes and the “5 Why’s”. So if leftists start asking why the violence, and keep asking why ...

It takes them places they don’t want to go ... throwing money at the problem only treats the symptom, a quick fix.

The root cause is something leftists can’t accept ... that broken families and ruined communities are at the bottom of it.

I think it will take a move of God to open eyes and change hearts.


2 posted on 08/18/2018 9:31:28 AM PDT by Cloverfarm (Pray for the peace of Jerusalem ...)
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Other than being surprised The Hill published this, the reality is - we understand this, and we understand that the message has been ignored for decades.

You can’t walk up to your average inner city “youth” and explain this to them. They have been taught, and believe wholeheartedly, all the things we know to be false.

Attempting to take away their free ride, or expose them to the truth that their worldview was polluted, would be the equivalent of telling one of us that our understanding of the world and certain truths was all wrong. We’re not going to believe it, no matter how much evidence is presented.

The liberal mantra has been extremely successful in creating a permanent underclass that cannot be helped, and will burn the city down if you force them into a world they do not accept nor understand.

You might as well try to modernize a society that’s been alone in the jungle for centuries. It just doesn’t work.

“Well, fix education.” - Good luck with that.
“Turn off the spigot.” - Better hire more firefighters.

You would need a dictatorship and/or full-blown McCarthyism to even begin to solve this problem, IMO.


3 posted on 08/18/2018 9:37:32 AM PDT by TheZMan (I am a secessionist.)
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"Government" is always the easy answer. An ineffective answer. A burdensome answer. A destructive answer. But for someone looking for a specious, palliative "fix" for a complex problem, it's ideal.

It's a lot more difficult to address the root causes of urban decay, because it starts with 1) an admission that the liberal policies of the past have failed -- dismally; and 2) that the lies we've been told about cultural equivalence are just that -- lies.

We all know who's to blame for urban violence. But no one dares speak the word.

4 posted on 08/18/2018 9:38:35 AM PDT by IronJack
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Once all the wetbacks have been deported, the inner city parasites can replace them, getting some fresh air, and doing honest day’s work for their “free” everything. (or they can get a real job)

The murdering domestic terrorists should be executed, and their buddies, the violent anti-American thugs, should be shipped to the $h!+hole country of their choosing.

Any “refugee” that breaks any law....buh-bye.


5 posted on 08/18/2018 9:44:36 AM PDT by ROCKLOBSTER (The Obama is about to hit the fan.)
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I think it will take a move of God to open eyes and change hearts.

If you read the comments at the (S)hill, you can get an idea of the quality of the people God would have to reach.

6 posted on 08/18/2018 9:44:45 AM PDT by Navy Patriot (America NEEDS Mob Rule, another European and Mid East World War and a universal Draft)
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It’s the culture, not the skin tone or economics or inanimate objects or lack of government money... but since they have been programmed to defend the culture above all else, don’t look for improvements anytime soon.


7 posted on 08/18/2018 9:47:30 AM PDT by Teacher317 (We have now sunk to a depth at which restatement of the obvious is the first duty of intelligent men)
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Want to take on the ‘Real Issue’? Start paying intelligent Blacks to have Children, and less intelligent Blacks to not have Children.


8 posted on 08/18/2018 9:50:39 AM PDT by heights
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I think as much of it is due to the K-12+ drumbeat of how evil our country is and how we are all exploiting minorities to this day.

Pound that into impressionable minds year and after year and what should you expect?


9 posted on 08/18/2018 10:01:06 AM PDT by 9YearLurker
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Want to take on the ‘Real Issue’? Start paying intelligent Blacks to have Children, and less intelligent Blacks to not have Children.

We could have a similar program for well-educated urban elites and those uncultured deplorables clinging to their guns and religion.

10 posted on 08/18/2018 10:05:29 AM PDT by Lonely Bull ("When he is being rude or mean it drives people _away_ from his confession and _towards_ yours.")
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To: Teacher317; Lonely Bull; AdmSmith; AnonymousConservative; Berosus; Bockscar; cardinal4; ColdOne; ...

Well put, well said.


11 posted on 08/18/2018 10:08:40 AM PDT by SunkenCiv (www.tapatalk.com/groups/godsgravesglyphs/, forum.darwincentral.org, www.gopbriefingroom.com)
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The only way for major changes to occur in a society in a very short period of time is for large numbers of people to engage in a revolution that topples the established order.

In America's inner cities, "a revolution that topples the established order" would involve learning to read and write, and acting like civilized humans.

12 posted on 08/18/2018 10:16:55 AM PDT by Alberta's Child ("The Russians escaped while we weren't watching them ... like Russians will.")
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Any decent,respectable man knows the reason...no fathers.Without my Dad,a good,hard working and honest man to look up to who knows what I would have become.

I love African wildlife.I've traveled there...and I watch every Nat Geo documentary on Africa that I can find.Some years ago park rangers in one of South Africa's big game parks noticed that young "teenage" male elephants were behaving very abnormally...causing all sorts of trouble,including killing other animals for no good reason.It was decided that the lack of adult males in the area (thanks to poaching) resulted in the "teenagers" having no one to look up to or to be disciplined by.

They arranged for adult males from other regions to be brought in and almost overnight the "teenagers" began to behave normally.

13 posted on 08/18/2018 10:16:59 AM PDT by Gay State Conservative (I've Never Owned Slaves...You've Never Picked Cotton.End Of "Discussion".)
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Johnson created this mess by allowing THE STATE to become 'daddy, husband and father'....

But NOT the responsible 'daddy'... but a daddy who said, "do what you want to my daughter, abuse her, use her and I'll pay"... and it deteriorates from there...

The solution is NOT to dump millions of dependent people on the streets... it's to use the government to switch incentives BACK to the ones that existed for thousands of years...the ones supporting healthy strong families. We got into this mess with bad incentives, we can get out of it with good incentives...

14 posted on 08/18/2018 10:25:35 AM PDT by GOPJ (Media's 'smup thugs' arm of the Democrat Party....)
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I to was shocked that this was on “The Hill.” Put the welfare back to the counties and towns like it was initially and you will see the roles shrink rapidly .....the moving of welfare to D.C. created an industry in itself while sacrificing the family unit to stay together in order to live and strive to have a comfortable life . That and their churches fail them also .


15 posted on 08/18/2018 11:04:17 AM PDT by mythenjoseph
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The biggest contributor of this violence is not even mentioned - the explosion of out of wedlock birth rates. From similar rates with Whites in the 30s the Black rate is 80%.

This is a disaster from every perspective.

See “Chaos and Mayhem.”


16 posted on 08/18/2018 11:41:47 AM PDT by arrogantsob (See "Chaos and Mayhem" at Amazon.com)
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I have to say this is the kind if idiocy that dug the hole out of which Trump is attempting to dig the conservative movement. Fortunately for us, Trump is 1000 times smarter than this.

Yeah, just “pull the plug” and all of the sudden inner city residents will just up and transform themselves into hard-working, family-oriented, God-fearing citizens. Right. No.

Yes, there’s a kernel of truth at the center of it — the problems of the inner-city have their root cause in the breakdown of the family — but you’re not going to solve that by just taking away government programs.

Trump is smart enough to understand that you solve it by creating opportunities, pathways towards a different life. The starting point is a booming economy (check), eliminating illegal immigration in order to establish a floor in the job market (check), supporting law enforcement so that communities can become safe and crime does not pay (check). Ben Carson is also on the right track with the “Vision Centers”, places where residents can go to acquire the skills and find opportunities (check). Mnuchin is also on the right track with the repatriation of foreign assets law, which will result in up to $6 trillion being invested in economically depressed areas, both urban and rural by the way (check).

Yes, we need to get people off the dole. Three million already have left food stamps since Trump came into office. But it has to be done in an environment where you’re giving people better choices.


17 posted on 08/18/2018 11:44:59 AM PDT by Behind the Blue Wall
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To: heights

Poverty is highly concentrated in Unmarried women (also the Demons top supporters).

The surest path to poverty is to have a child out of wedlock.

There is a gigantic problem which cannot be solved- the fact that Black IQs are a Standard Deviation from the mean. IQs are about 15 pts below the mean.

And before any marshmallows start screeching “racism.” It isn’t whites that have the highest IQs but the East Asians.
Jews have the highest. There are many unpleasant truths the world has to confront. This is one which has emerged and verified by hundreds of studies (most of which were by Leftists who hated this conclusion.


18 posted on 08/18/2018 11:49:55 AM PDT by arrogantsob (See "Chaos and Mayhem" at Amazon.com)
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Eliminate two demographic groups and over 90% of the violent crimes and murders go away.


19 posted on 08/18/2018 1:34:04 PM PDT by Secret Agent Man ( Gone Galt; Not averse to Going Bronson.)
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And if some other dempgraphic groups tries to cause trouble, you deal with them just the same.


20 posted on 08/18/2018 1:34:49 PM PDT by Secret Agent Man ( Gone Galt; Not averse to Going Bronson.)
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