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To: Mariner

Heard on Hannity this afternoon, that APPLE THE Defender of Freedom UNLOCKED THEIR CLOUD SERVICES FOR MUELLER.

But the same cannot be said for the Apple using Cali terrorists.


3 posted on 08/17/2018 4:02:19 PM PDT by DUMBGRUNT (So what!)
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To: DUMBGRUNT
Heard on Hannity this afternoon, that APPLE THE Defender of Freedom UNLOCKED THEIR CLOUD SERVICES FOR MUELLER.

what's up with that

4 posted on 08/17/2018 4:04:55 PM PDT by timestax
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To: DUMBGRUNT

I seriously doubt that. Please provide a substantive link, otherwise I call BS.


6 posted on 08/17/2018 4:10:57 PM PDT by dayglored ("Listen. Strange women lying in ponds distributing swords is no basis for a system of government.")
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To: DUMBGRUNT
Most likely just want names to put on voter rolls and get them enrolled in SNAP, Obamaphones, Obamacare, and protest marches lists.

You must be a good rotten machine. One the state can use. These guys have no business operating outside the federal game plan.

7 posted on 08/17/2018 4:30:16 PM PDT by blackdog
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To: DUMBGRUNT
Heard on Hannity this afternoon, that APPLE THE Defender of Freedom UNLOCKED THEIR CLOUD SERVICES FOR MUELLER.

But the same cannot be said for the Apple using Cali terrorists.

That's a false assertion, Dumbgrunt. Try to knock some facts before you spread FAKE NEWS.

In both situations—the San Bernardino Terrorist iPhone iCloud backups, and the Mueller investigation—when Apple was presented with legal search warrants to produce data of which they were custodians, Apple complied with the search warrants and produced the data. They provided the backups of the terrorists' iPhone and they provided what ever data they had Mueller was legally requesting. This is historic fact, DUMBGRUNT. Search it out.

What they could not and would not do was comply with an illegal All Writs court order requiring Apple to create a custom version of iOS which disabled all built-in security for iOS which would unlock ALL iPhones and iPads using that model's processor and older and hand it over to the FBI.

According to several US Supreme Court decisions going back two centuries it is well establish that All Writs orders can only require a third-party business to provide a service for the court that they are already do in the normal course of their business practice. An example given is that a court can use an All Writs order to require a locksmith to unlock a locked door because that is something the locksmith does in the normal course of his business; it cannot order the locksmith to build a new door, or to open a door that does not have a lock, or even open a combination safe, if that skill is not part of his normal business offering to the public.

Apple does not design and sell custom operating systems to order of any of its customers. and never has. Therefore an All Writs order to design and build any custom operating system to the specifications of the FBI was beyond the scope of what an All Writs order is legally permitted to be used for and the Appellate Court so ruled. The Magistrate Judge exceeded her authority to issue such an order which was actually written by the FBI's lawyers.

Apple DID offer its assistance in unlocking the terrorist's County issued iPhone, but was rebuffed by the FBI's task force which told them "Thanks but no thanks. We prefer to do it ourselves."

These Ignorant FBI geniuses, working with the San Bernardino County IT "expert" idiotically decided the best way to get into the iPhone was to change the Terrorist's AppleID password associated with that iPhone which Apple would have told them NOT TO DO, but they did anyway, which succeeded in LOCKING the device beyond even Apple's ability to retrieve the data on the device!

That's more facts.

19 posted on 08/17/2018 7:54:27 PM PDT by Swordmaker (My pistol self-identifies as an iPad, so you must accept it in gun-free zones, you hoplaphobe bigot!)
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