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To: BeauBo
I don't get it.

why do the Turks want this guy so bad? seems kind of dumb to the an economic beating over one American pastor.

what is it? the principal of the thing?

2 posted on 08/14/2018 7:05:52 PM PDT by beebuster2000
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To: beebuster2000
The minister is trading material for the guy they really want.

Fethulla Gulen


5 posted on 08/14/2018 7:12:28 PM PDT by TADSLOS (ThereÂ’s a tear in my beer...)
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To: beebuster2000

The Turks double-crossed President Trump according to this:

“Report: US asked Israel to free terror suspect in deal for pastor held in Turkey”

https://www.timesofisrael.com/report-us-asked-israel-to-free-terror-suspect-in-deal-for-pastor-held-in-turkey/


6 posted on 08/14/2018 7:14:30 PM PDT by Doctor DNA (This is not your grandfather's internet.)
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To: beebuster2000
They have essentially taken him hostage to be freed in return for the US delivering a Turkish national, currently in the US, who Erdogan believes to be a principal in the unsuccessful coup against him. Trouble is, we don’t have the guy he wants, and the preacher, a US citizen, is totally innocent of the Turkish trumped up charges.

This is where Trump and American muscle will stomp on the fingers of a chickenshit foreign strong man who pisses us off.

7 posted on 08/14/2018 7:15:37 PM PDT by hinckley buzzard
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To: beebuster2000

Erdogan is a blow-hard petty-tyrant. When he said “no” to this request, when the issue was small, he sealed his fate.

Another Asian dictator who just doesn’t get Trump.

Trump also knows that years of Erdogan’s corruption had put the Turkish economy on a precarious footing. He just kicked the supports.

I don’t know if the Turkish Army has the clout it once did, but don’t be surprised to see a coup in the near future.


8 posted on 08/14/2018 7:15:57 PM PDT by PGR88
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To: beebuster2000
I don't get it. why do the Turks want this guy so bad?

What Erdogan wants is for the US to turn over Fethullah Gulen, who is living in Pennsylvania. A simple trade on the international board game.
13 posted on 08/14/2018 7:37:25 PM PDT by Colinsky
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To: beebuster2000

“why do the Turks want this guy so bad?”

On the one hand, he is a hostage they have taken, to trade for a political opponent of Erdogan’s, who lives in the US (Gulen).

On the other hand, there are other people in Turkish prisons, who may be part of the deal, but are not mentioned - people who worked in and for the US embassy in Turkey, at the time of the 2016 coup attempt.

Also, Erdogan has built an over-sized political image of himself as a strongman and a winner, for domestic political consumption. It is hard for him to climb down from a position politically (and perhaps psychologically).


14 posted on 08/14/2018 8:25:37 PM PDT by BeauBo
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