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Fire and Water in California
Wall Street Journal ^ | August 7, 2018

Posted on 08/08/2018 6:28:06 AM PDT by reaganaut1

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Governor Jerry Brown keeps lecturing Californians that they need to adapt to a new “climate normal,” yet the state government has done little to prepare for warmer and drier times if that is the future. Lawmakers instead have subordinated fire prevention to pleasing the green lobby.

Nearly 130 million trees in the state have died from drought, providing fuel for fast-spreading fires, and about half of the state’s 33 million acres of forestland needs restoration. The Little Hoover Commission, an independent state oversight agency, explained in a February report that “a century of fire suppression remains firmly entrenched within federal and state firefighting agencies and has left forest floors deep in flammable groundcover.”

The commission added: “Plans for prescribed burning to rid the forests of dense groundcover often clash with regional air quality regulations, even as emissions from catastrophic wildfires nullify hard-fought carbon reduction,” and disputes between the timber industry and environmentalists “hinder policy goals to thin overgrown forests to their original conditions.”

Another challenge is state politicians who’d rather spend money on green pork. This year the Democratic legislature appropriated a mere $30 million of cap-and-trade revenues for fuel reductions on 60,000 acres of forest land. They allocated $335 million for electric vehicle subsidies. Democrats have also spent billions on high-speed rail, but only this year did they get around to appropriating $101 million to replace a dozen or so Vietnam War-era helicopters unequipped with modern technology that enables night-flying for fire-fighting.

Imagine the damage that could have been averted—and lives saved—if the state had replaced the antiques earlier and cleared millions of dead trees in lieu of building the train whose costs are careening toward $100 billion and may never be finished.

(Excerpt) Read more at wsj.com ...


TOPICS: Editorial; Government; News/Current Events; US: California
KEYWORDS: california; forestfires

1 posted on 08/08/2018 6:28:06 AM PDT by reaganaut1
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To: reaganaut1

Read this thread which uses even the leftist National Geographic to underscore the fact that the exacerbation of damage caused by the naturally occurring wildfires is indeed man caused.

Thread by @ThomasWictor: “(1) @RepAdamSchiff shows why politicians need to stick to insider trading and prostitutes. (2) To quote the fanatically leftist National Geo […]” #Resistence

https://threadreaderapp.com/thread/1026954472142983168.html


2 posted on 08/08/2018 6:31:00 AM PDT by Hotlanta Mike ("itYou can avoid reality, but you can't avoid the consequences of avoiding reality.")
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To: reaganaut1

Can someone please provide me their sign-in info so I can read this article?:-)


3 posted on 08/08/2018 6:38:44 AM PDT by Kevin in California
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To: reaganaut1

Paywall


4 posted on 08/08/2018 6:40:49 AM PDT by freedumb2003 ("Trump is such a liar. He said we'd be tired from all this winning" (/dfwgator 7/27/18))
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To: reaganaut1

It’s still the people’s fault here for electing these morons. So it’s sad to say, but they’re getting what they deserve. Unfortunately, people like me who also live here are suffering for this as well even though we didn’t support any of this.


5 posted on 08/08/2018 6:41:14 AM PDT by Durbin
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To: reaganaut1

Saddened by the tragic loss of life and property from the fires. But, as with most things, either...

1) Let nature clean itself in the way of wildfires (don’t fight them). Eventually they will be more frequent but smaller. OR

2) manage the forests to prevent the fires or the fast spread of them.

California could screw up a ham sandwich even if they Gordon Ramsey as their chef.


6 posted on 08/08/2018 6:42:12 AM PDT by Tenacious 1
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To: Kevin in California; freedumb2003

Just search for article in your search engine....


7 posted on 08/08/2018 6:47:51 AM PDT by goodnesswins (White Privilege EQUALS Self Control & working 50-80 hrs/wk for 40 years!)
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To: reaganaut1

Timber it or watch it burn. That is the choice.


8 posted on 08/08/2018 6:59:40 AM PDT by American in Israel (A wise man's heart directs him to the right, but the foolish mans heart directs him toward the left.)
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To: reaganaut1

California is in need of some lumber companies to start cutting the trees strategically.


9 posted on 08/08/2018 7:01:02 AM PDT by 1Old Pro
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To: reaganaut1

How do you fight Forest Fire?
Prevent Them!
Logging and Forestry Management!


10 posted on 08/08/2018 7:20:27 AM PDT by crz
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To: 1Old Pro

We have 150 million dead trees. They burn nicely.


11 posted on 08/08/2018 7:31:38 AM PDT by calljack (Sometimes your worst nightmare is just a start.)
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To: Durbin

Neah.
The people who voted the crazies into office in the People’s Republic of California are mostly urban.
The people being ruined and killed in the fires are mostly rural and suburban - red or reddish areas.


12 posted on 08/08/2018 7:40:51 AM PDT by Little Ray (Freedom Before Security!)
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To: American in Israel
It's spread by grass and brush not primarily trees and forests.

It's a natural burn and regeneration ecosystem.

People have chosen to live there.

They need to learn how to mitigate risk factors around their homes in and their communities.

They should do controlled burns around these neighborhoods in off seasons but I can image if at least one home caught fire the program would end and never be discussed again.

But that's their solution.

13 posted on 08/08/2018 8:05:40 AM PDT by yesthatjallen
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To: Little Ray

So true. Unfortunately the urban masses get a major
say-so in how we rural people must live. The Founders
addressed this by establishing a bicameral legislature.
Each state was provided 2 Senate votes, not depended on
population. States (like California) adopted this system
to help the rural citizens resist being trampled by
urban voters. This worked OK until the SCOTUS decided
that the states didn’t rate the same policies as the
Federal Gov so they ruled that the state senates had to
be organized by the one-man, one-vote system. This
ruling came down in the 1960s and we country hicks
have been gradually taking it in the shorts ever since.

Enter the State of Jefferson campaign.....


14 posted on 08/08/2018 8:22:49 AM PDT by Sivad (Demo M/O = infiltrate, overtake, politicize, weaponize)
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To: Tenacious 1
2) manage the forests to prevent the fires or the fast spread of them.

As a timber property owner, I choose number 2. When the fed or state lands catch fire, let the timber companies harvest and replant. But nooooooo, they truly think timber companies will be setting fires all over SW Oregon, to be able to harvest more trees.

So they let them burn until they don't and after all is wasted and dead, they leave it that way, they do not harvest burnt but still viable trees, no spraying grass with glysophate to give baby trees a chance and no replanting.

15 posted on 08/08/2018 12:35:57 PM PDT by thirst4truth (America, What difference does it make?)
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To: Tenacious 1

“California could screw up a ham sandwich even if they Gordon Ramsey as their chef.”

Just in case anyone asks you to prove that, here you go:

https://www.acgov.org/aceh/food/CalCode_Effective%20Jan_2015.pdf


16 posted on 08/08/2018 3:43:46 PM PDT by MeganC (There is nothing feminine about feminism.)
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To: yesthatjallen

Actually this was never a problem until the Sierria club shut down forest management. The timber sales built an extensive system of fire roads and funded brush clearing

After the Sierra club lawfare caused the spread of pine bark beetle and blocked harvesting, then lobbied to remove fire roads yo “ return the forests to nature” the fire hazard just kept building.

The massive tree die off is the result of the lack of management for decades. The over growth continued until the perfect storm of depleted aquifers over pumping caused by flushing the water supply out to sea for un natural fishery met an extended drought. The oversize trees not cut for decades competed for every drop of water till vast swaths just died.

All preventable, 100 percent democratic eco greenie stupidity.


17 posted on 08/08/2018 4:20:51 PM PDT by American in Israel (A wise man's heart directs him to the right, but the foolish mans heart directs him toward the left.)
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To: yesthatjallen

It is not trees in town that is wiping out houses, it’s a 2 mile long wall of fire descending out of the State controlled land that is insurmountable to firefighters.

While citizens can be fined $1000 for each dead tree on their land they do not cut down, Govener brown does not cut down the 1 MILLION standing dead trees on land taken by the State. The “National Forest” lands are the cause of these multi square mile fire storms that and the improper management people have been complaining about to the dead ears of the Democrap Overlords for years now.


18 posted on 08/08/2018 4:30:09 PM PDT by American in Israel (A wise man's heart directs him to the right, but the foolish mans heart directs him toward the left.)
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To: reaganaut1

about 400 years ago, almost the whole west coast forests of california went up in one big fire - they show you the burn marks on older redwoods at the parks (or used to)

large fires are nothing new


19 posted on 08/08/2018 4:56:51 PM PDT by elbook
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