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Texas governor mocked for posting quote attributed to Winston Churchill (Mind your memes)
The Hill ^ | 08/07/18 | Justin Wise

Posted on 08/07/2018 8:22:16 AM PDT by yesthatjallen

Some journalists on Tuesday fact-checked Texas Gov. Greg Abbott (R) after he posted a tweet that cites a fake quote from former United Kingdom Prime Minister Winston Churchill.

"Some insights are timeless," Abbott tweeted, referencing a picture that quotes Churchill saying, "The fascists of the future will call themselves anti-fascists." There is no proof that Churchill ever made such a comment.

Responding to the quote, The Atlantic's David Frum joked that a phrase often used by President Trump could also be attributed to the nation's first president: "In the deathless words of George Washington, 'Collusion is not a crime.'"

"'The problem with quotes on the internet, is often they are not true' -Abraham Lincoln,'" Radio and TV personality Benjamin Allbright tweeted.

"Fact check: A similar phrase is attributed to Huey Long, a populist Louisiana governor and senator, but historians say there is decidedly no record of Winston Churchill uttering or writing this," Voice of America's Steve Herman tweeted.

“It's weird to think that the greatest indication of success is that one day people on the Internet will attribute fake stuff to you," The Washington Free Beacon's Alex Griswold tweeted.

Abbott has not responded to criticism since posting the tweet.

The tweet came after a weekend in which far-right protests and counter protests took place in cities such as Berkeley, Calif., and Portland, Ore.

In addition, the tweet was posted a day after anti-fascist protesters confronted leaders of Turning Point USA (TPUSA), a right-wing organization for conservative college students, while they were eating breakfast in Philadelphia.


TOPICS: News/Current Events; US: Texas
KEYWORDS: abbott; churchill; memes; texas
A reminder to everyone to be careful to check and recheck your quotes and memes.

I have seen many people mangle and misattribute quotes.

There are many sites to search quotes but often those sites are repeating the same misquotes and misattributions.

The best way to check a quote is to find the original, full attribution with a sourced reference.

Everyone needs to be careful.

Being lazing and just re-posting a meme quote you found on some other website leaves everyone open to ridicule.

1 posted on 08/07/2018 8:22:17 AM PDT by yesthatjallen
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2 posted on 08/07/2018 8:23:32 AM PDT by Jeff Chandler (President Trump divides Americans . . . from anti-Americans.)
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To: yesthatjallen

Life has gotten too serious. I’m inclined to let God sort it all out.


3 posted on 08/07/2018 8:24:17 AM PDT by LurkedLongEnough
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To: yesthatjallen

While the left murders the unborn, destroys marriage, the language,science and the Constitution; we worry over being ridiculed.


4 posted on 08/07/2018 8:26:52 AM PDT by Hugh the Scot ("The days of being a keyboard commando are over. It's time to get some bloody knuckles." -Drew68)
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To: yesthatjallen

Excellent point! Of course, the left does that as well “Hitler quote” for example. But nothing makes you look dumber than posting an unvetted urban myth.


5 posted on 08/07/2018 8:27:20 AM PDT by PlateOfShrimp
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To: yesthatjallen

Remember when Bartlett’s Familiar Quotations was the authoritative source for quotations? The book was first issued in 1855 and is currently in its eighteenth edition, published in 2012.

Today, the authoritative source is “Bob’s Meme and Quote Factory.”


6 posted on 08/07/2018 8:31:41 AM PDT by ProtectOurFreedom
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I think Ingsoc describes the Antifa and our current left quite nicely.


7 posted on 08/07/2018 8:32:06 AM PDT by poinq
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Of course, some Internet quotes are 100% accurate and full of helpful facts. Fer instance...


8 posted on 08/07/2018 8:35:25 AM PDT by ProtectOurFreedom
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To: PlateOfShrimp
I remember when Barbara Streisand quoted Shakespeare in reference to GW Bush.

The passage was completely made up.

When exposed she gave the Dan Rather excuse. 'Even if it's not a Shakespeare quote it's still true!'

9 posted on 08/07/2018 8:43:42 AM PDT by yesthatjallen
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10 posted on 08/07/2018 8:53:42 AM PDT by dead
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Why would you hate that?


11 posted on 08/07/2018 9:03:59 AM PDT by steve8714 ("My name is Rod Blagojevich and I need cash now!" (all) "Call JB Pritzker, 87DirtyCashNOW!")
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I bet a million dollars that they fact-checked the fake quote taken from the Internet...on the Internet.


12 posted on 08/07/2018 9:25:14 AM PDT by Lee'sGhost ("Just look at the flowers, Lizzie. Just look at the flowers.")
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"The fascists of the future will call themselves anti-fascists."

Do the words provide the message on their own or does the author of the words provide the message?

The author brings the words to our attention but after that introduction the words have to stand on their own.

Regardless of the author do the words stand on their own?

13 posted on 08/07/2018 9:27:30 AM PDT by MosesKnows (Love Many, Trust Few, and Always Paddle Your Own Canoe)
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If you can't confirm the source, you can simply say, 'it's often been said', and quote the quote.

Sometimes it's difficult to pin down the original source unless it's in print or video:

"Lies, damned lies, and statistics" is a phrase describing the persuasive power of numbers, particularly the use of statistics to bolster weak arguments. It is also sometimes colloquially used to doubt statistics used to prove an opponent's point.

The term was popularized in United States by Mark Twain (among others), who attributed it to the British Prime Minister Benjamin Disraeli: "There are three kinds of lies: lies, damned lies, and statistics." However, the phrase is not found in any of Disraeli's works and the earliest known appearances were years after his death. Several other people have been listed as originators of the quote, and it is often erroneously attributed to Twain himself.

14 posted on 08/07/2018 9:55:35 AM PDT by yesthatjallen
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Well, that settles that!

How many times has this been misquoted, re-written, and attributed to different people?

15 posted on 08/07/2018 10:02:01 AM PDT by yesthatjallen
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To: dead

Did he really say that?

The universe - now with more molecules!


16 posted on 08/07/2018 10:47:25 AM PDT by Disambiguator (Keepin' it analog.)
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It doesn’t matter who said it...it’s true.


17 posted on 08/07/2018 10:58:09 AM PDT by mass55th (Courage is being scared to death - but saddling up anyway...John Wayne)
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the original source

I support Disraeli’s observation regarding the value of preserving quotations. My personal position is that the words are more important than the author.

Here is an example of what I mean: A fine quotation is a diamond on the finger of a witty person but a pebble in the hands of a fool – Author Unknown

The wisdom of the words will not improve if I discover that quotation’s author.

I think it would be rude not to accurately attribute a quote but it is more important to accurately report the quote.

The bible is the root of many popular quotations from notable people but it is not necessary to know the source in order to enjoy the message.

The source is most important when discussing quotations like; "Money is the root of all evil" compared to "The love of money is the root of all evil.

18 posted on 08/08/2018 6:20:41 AM PDT by MosesKnows (Love Many, Trust Few, and Always Paddle Your Own Canoe)
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