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'I am convinced many will follow in my son's footsteps'
Arutz Sheva ^ | 31/7/18

Posted on 07/31/2018 1:02:19 AM PDT by Eleutheria5

Zehut party chairman and former MK Moshe Feiglin gave full backing to his son Avi, a soldier in the Kfir Brigade who uploaded a Facebook post calling to refuse orders that place soldiers’ lives in danger so as to minimize harm to Arab rioters. Following the post, Avi was tried and dismissed from his combat position.

"My son Avi received 10 days conditional imprisonment and was removed from combat duties, but I want to tell you that he is doing the greatest fighting that is required today," Feiglin said in a response. "What he did in the last 24 or 48 hours, is the real fighting for the lives of our soldiers, for the lives of our next recruits."

"Most of those killed in the IDF in recent years were killed on the altar of a baseless ideology of sacrificing the lives of our soldiers for the benefit of a hostile population," Feiglin said. "This must stop. Avi understood this, Avi called it out. The amount of support he is receiving from all sides is simply amazing. I am convinced that many will follow after him, and together they will establish a clear, moral red line. They will return the IDF to us, to the people and its values, and we will not find ourselves repeatedly sacrificing our sons, our soldiers, for the welfare of a hostile population. "

Yesterday, it was reported that Avi Feiglin was dismissed from his duties as a combat soldier in the Kfir brigade following his Facebook post over the weekend.

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(Excerpt) Read more at israelnationalnews.com ...


TOPICS: Extended News; Government; Israel; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: feiglin; israel; jerusalem; letshavejerusalem; military; orders; riots; waronterror
Things must be really bad. This is basically fomenting mutiny, and his father, also former IDF, backs him up. Stupid policy, but hardly the first stupid policy ever implemented in any military.

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In the post, Avi related how, several months ago during a brigade educational evening, a ‘Charuv’ battalion commander from the brigade had spoken about an operational “success” over which he had commanded during the period of Operation Protective Edge, near the community of Migdal Oz in Gush Etzion.

According to the plan of the operation in question, “The soldiers would manage the riot as usual, while snipers would be stationed at the entrance gate of Migdal Oz. When the snipers identified who was shooting at the soldiers during the riot, they would neutralize him with a bullet to the foot.”

Avi blasted what he called the “impotent” plan, concluding, “More than all the injustices in this story, I am enraged by two things: 1) We used soldiers as bait to ‘catch’ a terrorist, not kill him. 2) Standing in front of us is a commander from the Charuv battalion, now a special unit, presenting the events as a war story, as an operational success. That commander’s place is in civilian jail after being booted from the IDF, and so also for the whole chain of command that approved this activity.”

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1 posted on 07/31/2018 1:02:19 AM PDT by Eleutheria5
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To: Eleutheria5

You don’t use your soldiers as “human bait” unless it is absolutely necessary to save their lives and those around them.

The Palestinians are stupid enough to keep on practicing terrorism in a futile effort to get a state, a state they could have had in the 1990’s but Arafat or Abbas said “NO”.

They had their chance. Now let them die like the madmen they are.


2 posted on 07/31/2018 1:12:09 AM PDT by MadMax, the Grinning Reaper
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To: Eleutheria5

This sounds akin to the sort of RoE ‘Mad Dog’ Mattis would think appropriate in Afghanistan. This is the liberal death wish ion action.


3 posted on 07/31/2018 1:12:29 AM PDT by robowombat (Orthodox)
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To: robowombat

“...they would neutralize him with a bullet to the foot.”

Why not just shoot the gun out of their hand? It always worked for Roy Rogers.


4 posted on 07/31/2018 1:16:44 AM PDT by Eleutheria5 (“If you are not prepared to use force to defend civilization, then be prepared to accept barbarism.)
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Zehut party chairman and former MK Moshe Feiglin gave full backing to his son Avi, a soldier in the Kfir Brigade who uploaded a Facebook post calling to refuse orders that place soldiers’ lives in danger so as to minimize harm to Arab rioters.
Thanks Eleutheria5.

5 posted on 07/31/2018 1:38:00 AM PDT by SunkenCiv (www.tapatalk.com/groups/godsgravesglyphs/, forum.darwincentral.org, www.gopbriefingroom.com)
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To: Eleutheria5
they would neutralize him with a bullet to the foot.”?

Tulta munille!

6 posted on 07/31/2018 1:48:33 AM PDT by null and void (Equality is important, but quality is paramount.)
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Reminds me of using Marines in Iraq for SLJ’s instead of what Marines are intended for.


7 posted on 07/31/2018 3:14:11 AM PDT by Clutch Martin (The trouble ain't that there is too many fools, but that the lightning ain't distributed right.)
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To: Clutch Martin

SLJ?


8 posted on 07/31/2018 3:41:39 AM PDT by Eleutheria5 (“If you are not prepared to use force to defend civilization, then be prepared to accept barbarism.)
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To: Eleutheria5
"Most of those killed in the IDF in recent years were killed on the altar of a baseless ideology of sacrificing the lives of our soldiers for the benefit of a hostile population,"

Sounds similar to the way police are being treated here in the US

9 posted on 07/31/2018 4:23:42 AM PDT by P.O.E. (Pray for America)
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To: Eleutheria5

Shooting at soldiers earns only a bullet to the foot? Why not a cranial evacuation courtesy of said bullet?


10 posted on 07/31/2018 5:06:59 AM PDT by Wyrd bið ful aræd ( Flag burners can go screw -- I'm mighty PROUD of that ragged old flag)
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To: Eleutheria5

SLJ = $hitty Little Jobs

I.e, not being used as aggressive warriors...


11 posted on 07/31/2018 5:31:41 AM PDT by Tahoe3002
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To: Eleutheria5

“Most of those killed in the IDF in recent years were killed on the altar of a baseless ideology”...……..

Holds true for most wars. Politicians don’t seem to care who dies, when or where providing it helps their cause.


12 posted on 07/31/2018 5:44:27 AM PDT by DaveA37
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To: Wyrd bið ful aræd

On the other hand, if you just make sure to hit the humeral artery, it’ll amount to the same thing as a cranial evacuation, except cause more pain and anguish as they bleed out and the medic ‘desperately tries’ to locate the wound and stanch it. I know. I have a perverted mind, but I do think of these things.


13 posted on 07/31/2018 7:12:17 AM PDT by Eleutheria5 (“If you are not prepared to use force to defend civilization, then be prepared to accept barbarism.)
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To: Eleutheria5

SLJ = Sh*tty Little Jobs

MILSLANG

A SLJO was that inept ensign or ltjg that just didn’t get it. So they became the movie officer, laundry and morale (aka Ensign Pulver)...

So when the Marines were in IRAQ some stoopid civilian in the pentagon figured that they should be assigned community outreach, traffic cops, and all sorts of SLJ’s that the Corps simply wasn’t trained to do. A real cluster. Marines have a mission but the BHO administration sought to neuter thus putting Marines at risk.


14 posted on 07/31/2018 8:36:23 AM PDT by Clutch Martin (The trouble ain't that there is too many fools, but that the lightning ain't distributed right.)
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To: Clutch Martin

BHO and the Pentagon have an excuse, “supreme delusions of longitude;” i.e., the irrational belief that war happens on TV and is a political tool to be exploited.

Israelis, however, have their faces to reality every day. I remember back during the stabbing epidemic, standing at the Gush Etzion junction trying to hitch a ride. One soldier saw some suspicious interaction down the road, and he was there rifle out and ready so fast, if I had sneezed I would have missed him running. Turned out it was nothing. He returned to his post and was a wound spring again, ready for anything.

The brass should be already vaccinated against stupid thinking like this. We’re too small a country and hopelessly outnumbered by people who are still PO’d that we helped take down the Ottoman Empire back in 1918, and want to kill us for it. SLJ’s and SLJO’s have no place in such an environment.

But even so, neither does insubordination along the chain of command or a former MK supporting it. This is extraordinary.


15 posted on 07/31/2018 12:19:23 PM PDT by Eleutheria5 (“If you are not prepared to use force to defend civilization, then be prepared to accept barbarism.)
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Whole new meaning for I>shooting yourself in the foot

16 posted on 07/31/2018 6:49:31 PM PDT by SJackson (The easiest way to find something lost around the house is to buy a replacement)
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