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There's No Such Thing as 'Democratic Socialism'
Am Thinker ^ | July 29, 2018 | Steve Feinstein

Posted on 07/29/2018 9:59:38 PM PDT by upchuck

The darling of the Democratic Party and the liberal media is Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez... In their breathless, frenzied rush to anoint Ocasio-Cortez as the coming of the Savior of the Nation, liberals have wholeheartedly embraced her call for “Democratic Socialism.”

... what is this “democratic socialism?”...

What Democrats think it is sounds good: income equality, a fair living wage for everyone, plentiful employment opportunities, quality healthcare coverage for all, affordable college education for all who want it, easy access to affordable, quality housing, and a tax system where the so-called rich pay their “fair share.”

Implicit in the discussion of their prized new order is that everything about the American economy, way of life and culture that is to their liking would remain securely in place, unaffected by the transition to democratic socialism. That, of course, is preposterous. The aspects of daily American life that people like and take for granted -- plentiful food available at well-stocked supermarkets... -- are all made possible by the capitalist/profit-oriented structure of our economic system. If the private business profit incentive is removed, as is the case in a socialist economy, the underlying competitive impetus for providing those goods and services disappears. It’s a zero-sum game: the more “socialism” that is introduced into the economy, the less efficient that economy becomes, because lessened private competition results in fewer choices and a diminishing incentive to increase efficiency or reduce costs.

Proponents of democratic socialism never actually explain where the money needed to pay for all the largess will actually come from. There is a limit to how much simply taxing the rich will produce. Taxes on services and sales transactions would need to be raised to a stifling degree, with a commensurate negative effect on economic activity.

(Excerpt) Read more at americanthinker.com ...


TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Culture/Society; Editorial; Government; News/Current Events; US: New York; US: Vermont
KEYWORDS: 2018election; 2020election; berniesanders; communism; democraticsocialism; democrats; election2018; election2020; joecrowley; newyork; ocasiocortez; snoflakes; snowflakes; socialdemocracy; socialism; totalitarianism; vermont
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AOC has an economics degree from Boston University. Cudda fooled me :)
1 posted on 07/29/2018 9:59:38 PM PDT by upchuck
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To: upchuck
Boston University should lose their accreditation over this...
2 posted on 07/29/2018 10:07:07 PM PDT by Cowboy Bob ("Other People's Money" = The life blood of Liberalism)
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To: upchuck

Socialist governments are a trap. Once it seeps in there’s no getting rid of it before they get rid of you.


3 posted on 07/29/2018 10:11:40 PM PDT by Fhios (♫ Oh Where have you been Jeffy boy Jeffy boy oh where have you been charming Jeffy?)
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“[T]he first step in the revolution by the working class is to raise the proletariat to the level of ruling class to win the battle of democracy.”

— Communist Manifesto, chapter 2

“What will be the course of this revolution? Above all, it will establish a democratic constitution, and through this, the direct or indirect dominance of the proletariat. […] Democracy would be wholly valueless to the proletariat if it were not immediately used as a means for putting through measures directed against private property and ensuring the livelihood of the proletariat.”

— The Principles of Communism

“[I]t is very clear that in fundamental theory, socialism and democracy are almost, if not quite, one and the same. They both rest at bottom upon the absolute right of the community to determine its own destiny and that of its members. Men as communities are supreme over men as individuals.”

— Woodrow Wilson, “Socialism and Democracy”
Socialism is indeed “democratic” and that is its biggest problem. The USA is a republic.
4 posted on 07/29/2018 10:17:37 PM PDT by Olog-hai ("No Republican, no matter how liberal, is going to woo a Democratic vote." -- Ronald Reagan, 1960)
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To: upchuck

“The aspects of daily American life that people like and take for granted — plentiful food available at well-stocked supermarkets... — are all made possible by the capitalist/profit-oriented structure of our economic system. If the private business profit incentive is removed, as is the case in a socialist economy, the underlying competitive impetus for providing those goods and services disappears.”

Back in the days of the old Soviet Union, someone made a comment that “if Marilyn Monroe walked the streets of Moscow completely nude save a new pair of shoes, the Muscovites would look at her feet.”


5 posted on 07/29/2018 10:31:54 PM PDT by vette6387
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To: upchuck

That is quite an oxymoron isn’t it?


6 posted on 07/29/2018 10:31:59 PM PDT by Bullish (My tagline is here. you just can't see it.)
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To: Olog-hai
"Men as communities are supreme over men as individuals"

Hitler made a few speech's that is very similar to that statement.

7 posted on 07/29/2018 10:32:39 PM PDT by Steve Van Doorn (*in my best Eric Cartman voice* 'I love you, guys')
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To: upchuck

That explains it for me.


8 posted on 07/29/2018 10:39:40 PM PDT by Dapper 26
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To: Steve Van Doorn

It’s socialist thought through and through.


9 posted on 07/29/2018 10:46:03 PM PDT by Olog-hai ("No Republican, no matter how liberal, is going to woo a Democratic vote." -- Ronald Reagan, 1960)
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To: upchuck

They should have waited until the majority of the boomers were dead.

I don’t know a Boomer or an Xer that doesn’t recoil at the S word.

20 years too soon, you big socialist dummies.


10 posted on 07/29/2018 10:47:47 PM PDT by 1_Inch_Group (Country Before Party)
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To: 1_Inch_Group

Liberals lie and nation’s die.


11 posted on 07/29/2018 10:56:11 PM PDT by inchworm
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Ain’t nothing dying here man.

We good. They did it too soon, and with the wrong person in charge.

Just antagonize them....make them spew more of their garbage.

When one of them talks on the news....they lose 20 people.

Walkaway.

;)


12 posted on 07/29/2018 11:01:46 PM PDT by 1_Inch_Group (Country Before Party)
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To: upchuck
What Democrats think it is sounds good: income equality, a fair living wage for everyone, plentiful employment opportunities, quality healthcare coverage for all, affordable college education for all who want it, easy access to affordable, quality housing, and a tax system where the so-called rich pay their “fair share.”

Funny how they never get around to defining who would qualify as the "rich" nor what a "fair share" tax would be! How much do you want to bet that every single one of them would balk if they happened to one day win the Powerball lottery and they suddenly became a member of the upper class? A great many of these socialist Democrats already ARE millionaires. So what is stopping them from giving away most of their wealth now if they really were so convinced it would solve all our problems?

13 posted on 07/29/2018 11:14:50 PM PDT by boatbums (Not by works of righteousness which we have done but according to His mercy he saved us.)
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To: upchuck

It doesn’t matter in the slippery slightest where there is such a thing as Democratic Socialism or not. Call it Democratic socialism, and do so hundreds if not thousands of times between now and the election and simply just keep saying it. Don’t overthink it. Just repeat it. Over and over.


14 posted on 07/29/2018 11:15:37 PM PDT by Attention Surplus Disorder (Apoplectic is where we want them)
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To: upchuck

Tell that to the Mensheviks


15 posted on 07/29/2018 11:15:46 PM PDT by Hoosier-Daddy ("Washington, DC. You will never find a more wretched hive of scum and villainy. We must be cautious")
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To: upchuck

Implicit in the discussion of their prized new order is that everything about the American economy, way of life and culture that is to their liking would remain securely in place,


Great article and I’m sure the writer spent a lot of time on it. But, that sentence right there sums it up about as perfect as it could be summed up.

They want all their fantasies to come true, while still maintaining the lifestyles they live. They want free housing, medical, etc, move them all into Section 8 and put them on Medicaid. Have them identify themselves as wanting ‘socialism’ and start taxing their income at 70-80%. They won’t be able to feed themselves, let alone visit their favorite, neighborhood craft beer spot, buy their Vespa’s or sip the newest bourbon made in some hipsters basement down the street. No more mocha chai decaf fair trade honduran lattes w/ a caramel drizzle on top.


16 posted on 07/29/2018 11:17:31 PM PDT by qaz123
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"Have them identify themselves as wanting ‘socialism’ and start taxing their income at 70-80%."

No. 100% above the minimum wage. Put it towards arresting the debt.

17 posted on 07/29/2018 11:20:40 PM PDT by fieldmarshaldj ("It's Slappin' Time !")
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To: upchuck

Democracy is Two wolves and a sheep deciding what to eat...

Democratic Socialism is Two wolves forcing the sheep to baste itself in order to solve the collective hunger problem of the people.


18 posted on 07/29/2018 11:38:21 PM PDT by GraceG ("Q is not a Cult, you can safely leave at any time, unlike Islam")
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To: fieldmarshaldj

You’re right. How else would they pay for all the free stuff they want. They’re going to get everything else from the gubment, anyway.

I stand corrected.


19 posted on 07/29/2018 11:48:09 PM PDT by qaz123
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To: Bullish
An oxymoron is a word or group of words that is self-contradicting, as in bittersweet or plastic glass.

There is a difference, but the results from both types of government are almost the same.
Democracy IS "Mob Rule" !


20 posted on 07/29/2018 11:51:56 PM PDT by Yosemitest (It's SIMPLE ! ... Fight, ... or Die !)
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