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Judge blocks gun control groups' lawsuit to stop downloadable 3D-printed guns
The Hill ^ | 07/27/18 | John Bowden

Posted on 07/27/2018 9:15:32 PM PDT by yesthatjallen

A federal judge on Friday tossed out a motion from three national gun control groups seeking a last-minute halt to a settlement that would allow for blueprints of 3-D printed firearms to be posted and dowloaded online.

Reuters reports that U.S. District Judge Robert Pitman in Austin, Texas, blocked the motion filed earlier this week seeking a temporary restraining order and preliminary injunction on the case to halt design plans for 3-D printed guns from going online.

The federal government had argued until recently that such blueprints posed a national security risk to the United States, but in June abruptly reversed course and reached a settlement with gun rights activist Cody Wilson, declaring that his company, Defense Distributed, would be allowed to post and sell the plans for 3-D printed guns.

The Brady Center to Prevent Gun Violence, Everytown for Gun Safety and Giffords Law Center argued in Wednesday's filing that the government provided no explanation for reversing a policy to allow the legal download of products previously considered to be a national security threat.

“The Settlement Agreement raises very serious national and international security concerns and would cause immediate and irreparable harm to the United States and its citizens and the global community,” their court filings read.

“Simply put, the Department of Justice and State Department have suddenly and completely reversed themselves about the threats to public safety posed by plaintiffs’ proposed actions."

The blueprints reportedly include firearm models from simple handguns up to and including AR-15s.

A general counsel for the National Shooting Sports Foundation (NSSF) argued that concerns over the weapons were overstated, as the technology is very basic and does not produce quality weaponry, Reuters reported.

“I don’t see it likely at all that criminals will use this clunky and expensive technology,” NSSF general counsel Lawrence Keane said.


TOPICS: News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: 2ndamendment; banglist; guncontrol; gunrights; nra; secondamendment

1 posted on 07/27/2018 9:15:32 PM PDT by yesthatjallen
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To: yesthatjallen

I don’t care if Pitman is an openly gay 0bama appointee, if he’s making pro-gun rulings.


2 posted on 07/27/2018 9:54:51 PM PDT by kiryandil (Never pick a fight with an angry beehive)
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To: kiryandil

I think a lot of these judges are looking at the makeup of the Trump SCOTUS and deciding to avoid being overturned. Doesn’t look good to be constantly wrong.


3 posted on 07/27/2018 9:59:23 PM PDT by Hugin (Conservatism without Nationalism is ba fraud.,)
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To: yesthatjallen
the technology is very basic and does not produce quality weaponry

What everyone has been saying all along. With the proper tools, a machinist can produce an excellent gun. Regular 3D printers cannot. They may function, but are inferior in every way to handguns readily available everywhere. It's a non-issue regarding the security of the country.

4 posted on 07/27/2018 10:12:30 PM PDT by roadcat
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Ummmmm....

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Solid_Concepts_1911_DMLS

The only restriction here is that 3D printers with the required resolution to print a retail quality firearm are still expensive. It is not a restriction inherent to 3D printing.


5 posted on 07/27/2018 10:35:31 PM PDT by Spktyr (Overwhelmingly superior firepower and the willingness to use it is the only proven peace solution.)
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To: roadcat

That said - even if you do have an EOSINT M270 to print a quality 1911, it STILL has nothing to do with the security of the country.


6 posted on 07/27/2018 10:36:33 PM PDT by Spktyr (Overwhelmingly superior firepower and the willingness to use it is the only proven peace solution.)
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To: yesthatjallen

Can you really download a 3D Gun to print a gun?


7 posted on 07/27/2018 10:37:57 PM PDT by Davy Crocket
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To: Spktyr
It is not a restriction inherent to 3D printing.

I did say regular 3D printers, meaning ordinary printers that a regular Joe would have. If one could afford a fancy expensive 3D printer that could knock off a retail quality firearm, why bother when you could easily buy a retail firearm?

8 posted on 07/27/2018 11:52:04 PM PDT by roadcat
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To: Spktyr; All

it STILL has nothing to do with the security of the country.


Exactly correct. This is and was primarily a First Amendment issue. People have been making guns at home for more than 500 years.

This technology simply makes that possibility obvious to the ignorant Progressive Media. They get all upset because they never considered the possibility before.

Confront them with the fact that gun control has inherent technological limits, and they go crazy.

There are currently at least five ways to make an AR15 receiver at home, relatively easily.

1. Purchase an 80% blank and finish it with a drill, and files and patience; or a drill and a mill and skill. Many videos on how to do it available on the Internets.

2. Purchase an 80% receiver and finish it with a programed CDC machine, i.e. the Ghost gunner. Order it on the Internets.

3. Bolt one together from properly sized Aluminum sheets/blocks. Specs and templates available on the Internets.

4. Print one with a 3D printer. Code available on the Internets.

5. Cast one out of an epoxy resin. Molds, resin and instructions available on the Internets.

All of these methods have been shown to work reasonably well, taking various amounts of time and money.

All of the information is available to mill an AR15 receiver from a block of aluminum, to start completely from scratch. Some have used this method, but it takes much more time, skill, and effort than the others listed.


9 posted on 07/28/2018 2:36:20 AM PDT by marktwain (President Trump and his supporters are the Resistance. His opponents are the Reactionaries.)
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Homemade, undetectable guns are not a new thing. They were used 25 years ago.

https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0107206/


10 posted on 07/28/2018 3:03:05 AM PDT by shelterguy
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To: roadcat

The good news is that the technology will improve and become cheaper.


11 posted on 07/28/2018 3:13:12 AM PDT by Betty Jane
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To: roadcat

A skilled machinist can make a better gun than an unskilled layman with a 3D printer, TODAY.

In a few years, printers and designs will be improved, but the ruling will still be there.


12 posted on 07/28/2018 3:52:25 AM PDT by SauronOfMordor (Socialists want YOUR wealth redistributed, never THEIRS!)
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To: yesthatjallen

Free speech here too: Free 3D printable gun blueprints. Get yours now while you still can!
http://codeisfreespeech.com/


13 posted on 08/01/2018 2:42:52 PM PDT by 2harddrive
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