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FIRST THOUGHTS ON THE CARTER PAGE FISA APPLICATION
Powerline ^ | July 21, 2018 | JOHN HINDERAKER

Posted on 07/22/2018 9:03:30 AM PDT by Hojczyk

Given that most of the application that Barack Obama’s Department of Justice submitted to the FISA court to obtain a surveillance order on Carter Page has been redacted, what we can say about the application is limited. Still, a few things stand out.

First, the FISA application expresses confidence that Page was an agent of the Russian government, and engaged in criminal activity:

But Page has never been charged with anything. Accordingly, the least we can say is that Obama’s FBI and DOJ were wrong.

Second, the application’s description of Christopher Steele and the provenance of his dossier was misleading at best:

Third, the application relies to an astonishing degree on anti-Trump news stories published in the Democratic Party press. Does the FBI really get surveillance warrants on the basis of partisan press accounts? Apparently so. For example:

Notwithstanding such speculation in the Democratic Party press, the Trump administration has, in fact, agreed to send a $200 million military aid package to Ukraine. So the Carter Page warrant was obtained, at least in part, on the basis of groundless speculation in anti-Trump newspapers.

Amazingly, the FISA application relies on “speculation in U.S. media” for the proposition that Russia was behind the phishing of DNC emails:

This is truly pitiful.

Fourth, we still don’t know who at the FBI assembled the FISA application, since that person’s signature is redacted. But we do know who approved it–hyper-partisans James Comey and Sally Yates:

That probably tells us all we need to know about the veracity of the FISA application. Perhaps one day we will learn that Peter Strzok was the Democratic Party activist who prepared the application.

What I really want to know is the identity of the judge who signed off on the surveillance of Carter Page, based on such flimsy grounds.

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TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Government; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: bloggers; carterpage; carterpagefisa; fisa; fisaapplication; obamasfault; trumpdossier
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1 posted on 07/22/2018 9:03:30 AM PDT by Hojczyk
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To: Hojczyk
What I really want to know is the identity of the judge who signed off
on the surveillance of Carter Page, based on such flimsy grounds.

Me, too.

2 posted on 07/22/2018 9:09:51 AM PDT by Liz ( Our side has 8 trillion bullets; the other side doesn't know which bathroom to use.)
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To: Hojczyk

“What I really want to know is the identity of the judge who signed off on the surveillance of Carter Page, based on such flimsy grounds.”

Well we know Rosenweasel signed off on it a least twice knowing it was on a foundation of BS. But it allowed them to spy on the Trump campaign so the ends justified the means..right? Thankfully Gowdy stepped up last week and blocked any moves against RR /s


3 posted on 07/22/2018 9:12:21 AM PDT by gibsonguy
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To: Hojczyk

No doubt in my mind the insufferable Susan Rice played a huge part in this atrocity.


4 posted on 07/22/2018 9:14:06 AM PDT by Liz ( Our side has 8 trillion bullets; the other side doesn't know which bathroom to use.)
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To: gibsonguy

I believe Rosie signed off on the last renewal, when it was the Trump administration and not the campaign. Trump appointed Rosie for this job. I’d like to find who recommended the weasel for the job.


5 posted on 07/22/2018 9:26:32 AM PDT by tinamina
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To: Hojczyk

Was it the appropriate Fisa Statute? If not, was it ever valid?


6 posted on 07/22/2018 9:36:17 AM PDT by amihow
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To: Hojczyk

It also Declares that they are “Confident” the Russians hacked the DNC, Hardly probable cause otherwise it would be we KNOW FOR A FACT and here is the Evidence...

LOCK ALL OF THEM UP!!!@


7 posted on 07/22/2018 9:37:05 AM PDT by eyeamok
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To: tinamina

Chris Christie pal and Morgan, Lewis & Bockius law partner Ronald Tenpas was the big backer of Rosenstein, although RR was well-known otherwise.

Morgan-Lewis is very well-connected to the last few Democrat presidential nominees.


8 posted on 07/22/2018 9:39:39 AM PDT by jjotto (Nex eek, BOOM! for sure!)
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To: Hojczyk

And why was it a Title 1 FISA. That should have been several magnitudes harder to get.


9 posted on 07/22/2018 9:46:07 AM PDT by Revolutionary ("Praise the Lord and Pass the Ammunition!")
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To: jjotto

Chris Christie is a disgusting pig!


10 posted on 07/22/2018 9:51:58 AM PDT by Ann Archy (Abortion....... The HUMAN Sacrifice to the god of Convenience.)
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To: Hojczyk

Look I think this is big, Despite the redactions and the intended Saturday release, The documents absolutely and unequivocally confirm that the applications were based on the false dossier bought from Steele by hillary and the ap[[lications did not reveal that vital information of bias to the court, Lies were given to the Fisa courts bearing the signature swearing under the rules to the validity and truthfulness of those affidavits signed by Cpmey,. Rosensien Stroke and Sally Yates ( who was FIRED for insubordination!!) Those 4 individuals lied to a court which is blatant perjury IMO. That is the same offense that resulted in Bill Clinton’s impeachment and disbarment and a quarter million dollar fine!! Only HERE it wasn’t lies about SEX. These were lies to spy on the campaign of Donald Trump in support of the candidate that paid for the false information in the affidavits!!!


11 posted on 07/22/2018 10:06:50 AM PDT by raiderboy (Trump has assured us that he will shut down the government to get the WALL in Sept.ith the solar)
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To: Liz

Peter Strozak’s buddy Rudolph Contreras?


12 posted on 07/22/2018 10:07:09 AM PDT by Ozark Tom
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To: Revolutionary

And why was it a Title 1 FISA.


The first two attempts to get a FISA warrant failed. And Carter Page did work for a foreign government - if you will stipulate that a CIA mole working for the FBI for years is a foreign agent, since the CIA was run from the top by Brennan, recruited by Aldrich Ames, a long time Soviet agent. Who recruited Barry “Barack” for the CIA, and when was he recruited? Or was he a second or third generation legacy?


13 posted on 07/22/2018 10:08:46 AM PDT by bIlluminati (Defund the Left. Shrink the U.S. Federal government to 1897 levels.)
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To: Hojczyk

Carter Page was an FBI informant and witness from 2013-2016.

https://www.wsj.com/articles/former-trump-aide-carter-page-was-on-u-s-counterintelligence-radar-before-russia-dossier-1517486401

https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/former-trump-adviser-admits-to-2015-communication-with-russian-spy/2017/04/04/a09d7384-193b-11e7-9887-1a5314b56a08_story.html?noredirect=on&utm_term=.626049eaeca9

https://www.wsj.com/articles/former-trump-adviser-acknowledges-involvement-in-russian-spy-case-1491353177

http://online.wsj.com/public/resources/documents/2015_0126_spyring2.pdf


14 posted on 07/22/2018 10:18:35 AM PDT by Ozark Tom
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To: Hojczyk

“””Amazingly, the FISA application relies on “speculation in U.S. media” for the proposition that Russia was behind the phishing of DNC emails:”””


It is not what the FBI crooks say, it is what they do not say.

Namely, The FBI does not inform the FISA court that the DNC refused to allow the FBI access to the DNC servers to see who did the hacking.


15 posted on 07/22/2018 10:20:34 AM PDT by Presbyterian Reporter
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What I found most interesting was the description of the letters Carter Page wrote to the FBI and DOJ. How did he know that Hillary Clinton’s campaign was behind all this? And why did he write the letters?

From the beginning I’ve thought that Carter Page was more than just a victim in all this. If you were a plant for the FBI wouldn’t you try to conceal your involvement by pretending to be a victim?


16 posted on 07/22/2018 10:21:31 AM PDT by Brilliant
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To: Hojczyk

What bothers me the most is, that the deep state and the press are pushing an agenda to alter the Presidents plan. They are working together to stop the President from even attempting diplomacy. That is worrisome. The deep state and the press are working someones agenda but we don’t know who’s. What person or group of person organizes to create an agenda of pushing the President around. We know that McCain is involved, as well as the CIA and the press. But who is in charge of this group. It could be someone in government or someone in the press or lobbyists or even other states like the EU or Saudi Arabia. But most likely its a cabal. A group that has powerful control of several parts of the permanent government and press and banks and maybe large computer companies like Google or Microsoft.


17 posted on 07/22/2018 10:27:57 AM PDT by poinq
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To: Hojczyk
First, the FISA application expresses confidence that Page was an agent of the Russian government, and engaged in criminal activity: But Page has never been charged with anything. Accordingly, the least we can say is that Obama’s FBI and DOJ were wrong.

Trump's FBI and DoJ has not charged him either.

18 posted on 07/22/2018 10:28:49 AM PDT by plain talk
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To: bIlluminati; Liz; a little elbow grease; bitt

..... Still, a few things stand out.

First, the FISA application expresses confidence that Page was an agent of the Russian government, and engaged in criminal activity:

But Page has never been charged with anything. Accordingly, the least we can say is that Obama’s FBI and DOJ were wrong.

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The first two attempts to get a FISA warrant failed. And Carter Page did work for a foreign government - if you will stipulate that a CIA mole working for the FBI for years is a foreign agent, since the CIA was run from the top by Brennan, recruited by Aldrich Ames, a long time Soviet agent. Who recruited Barry “Barack” for the CIA, and when was he recruited? Or was he a second or third generation legacy?

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Imo, page was/is still a C_A/Fibber spook who was embedded in the trump campaign.

Page became useful to his DS handlers when they needed to frame the russian agent connection in the FISA warrant scheme.

No wonder page has never been charged with anything. He’s been in on it from the inception.

Bonus question re: page:. any truth to the report that stated page was a consultant for the clintln campaign in 1992???


19 posted on 07/22/2018 10:33:09 AM PDT by thinden
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To: Revolutionary

“And why was it a Title 1 FISA. That should have been several magnitudes harder to get.”

Apparently, all you need is a Hillary purchased Steele-Kremlin dossier and a couple of DNC Media stories and you can spy deeply on an individual and anyone who ever sent as much as a candygram to them.

#SpyGate explodes.


20 posted on 07/22/2018 10:36:15 AM PDT by romanesq (For George Soros so loved the world, he gave us Obama)
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