Hopefully he won't be starting anymore wars.
Who would ever take the word of the United States for anything? We gush over our enemies and kick our allies in the teeth.
“Russian invasion”
What Russian invasion? If Russia invaded Ukraine it would be over in a day or two. But who’d want Ukraine?
Not WE; obama chose to ignore them. Once he let them in, it's hell to pay to root them out. Hard to even know whom to shoot at, whom to bomb. Nope. Too late to stop the invasion; too dicey to try to reverse it. History must judge obama on this. And the Ukrainians and Montenegrans, et al, are tasked with any escapes/reversals of the status quo.
A bunch of dumbasses in Ukraine accepted the word of Bill Clinton for their existential security needs.
And the entire article is a good argument for the abolition of NATO.
When the Soviet Union broke up we and the European Union promised not to move to bring the former Eastern block nations into our spheres of influence.
To leave them as a buffer zone.
I don’t give a crap about any of the sh!theads who want to go to war about what Russia is doing now, since those agreements have been breached.
And it doesn’t matter one damned bit whether the sh!theads in question are European governments, former eastern block nations, or posters on some forum. March your happy @sses over there.
Of note is the fact that the US never promised to protect Ukraine from a US ambassador overthrowing the duly elected government and installing a thieving sock puppet.
Except the President cannot, alone, guarantee anything.
He is teh President of the united STATES. Going to war involves the STATES intimately, so to make a TREATY (which could guarantee something), the agreement of 2/3 of the Senate, which represents the STATES, is required.
Of course, the Sink Emperor never submitted a treaty or anything like one to the Senate for ratification on the Ukraine matter, so the TRUTH is - WE never promised them anything, and we don't owe them anything.
” made security guarantees to Ukraine, promising to protect it in case of Russian invasion, and we have chosen to ignore those obligations”
When the government fell to a coup, all deals with the old government were over. We never made any deal with the coup leaders. And when you throw a coup, you don’t automatically gain everything the old nation had. You only get to control what you can grab by force, and everyone else has the same right to grab by force that the coup leaders used.
That’s basically it.
It’s also the reason confederate money won’t work at the store anymore.
“The US asked Ukraine to give up its huge stockpiles of nuclear weapons in exchange for guarantees that we would protect their independence and territorial integrity from Russian interference or invasion...........”Russia has interfered and has, for all practical purposes, invaded.........”So why aren’t the neocons demanding a declaration of war against Russia?”
It was not a treaty. It was merely a political agreement a U.S. president signed all by themself and never signed as a treaty and never submitted to Congress to approve like a treaty. So it does not have the legal standing that a formal signed and agreed to treaty has, under U.S. law. In U.S. law a formal treaty signed by a president and submitted and agreed to by Congress is as “hard” a law as the Constitution. But that is not waht the political agreement with Ukriane was. Functionally, as far as the law, the only president that might have cause to follow a mere political agreement is just the president that signs it. That is really more of “moral” than legal obligation, and the presidents that follow can (a) deny it and (b) ignore it - it has no legal hold on them.
Now you see why Obama’s failure to cement the “Iran deal” as a treaty, made it easy for Trump to disavow it - it wasn’t a treaty.
I haven’t heard from Ace of Spades in years.
Hopefully he won't be starting anymore wars.
“Not 2 Late Declare War on RUS for Ukraine”
Was the expected to be read in English??