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Strzok explains how anti-Trump dossier made its way from Clinton camp to eager FBI
The Washington Times ^ | July 15, 2018 | Rowan Scarborough

Posted on 07/15/2018 3:22:10 PM PDT by jazusamo

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To: kabar

It keeps saying that Putin “was motivated to help Trump because he both hated and FEARED HRC. What a load of crap.

The guy knew if he added that into his report, HRC would get wet panties and have meglomaniacal ecstatic episodes and pay him double for the report!


41 posted on 07/15/2018 5:30:57 PM PDT by DariusBane (Liberty and Risk. Flip sides of the same coin. So how much risk will YOU accept? Vive Deo et Vives)
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To: piasa

I meant:

Oh wait, not Crowdstrike, but Cambridge Analytica and its parent company, London-based Strategic Communication Laboratories Group.... definite S Africa ties.


42 posted on 07/15/2018 5:31:12 PM PDT by piasa (Attitude adjustments offered here free of charge)
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To: jazusamo

It is still on going with them,and the media who are covering their crimes up.
Most of the country has no idea what all of this is, and even liberals think it is made up, or have not heard of it.

Sessions has not done a damn thing about any of this, nor has he done anything with the Clinton foundation, Uranium, voter fraud, Jarrett, Lynch and Clinton on the tarmac, of this investigation with Comey, and lets not forget fast and furious , or .the IRS where she has still got away with it.
There needs to be a massive clean out of all these agencies


43 posted on 07/15/2018 5:34:00 PM PDT by manc ( If they want so called marriage equality then they should support polygamy too.)
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To: manc

the greatest political scandal ever...and the FakeNewsMSM won’t touch it. how telling is that?


44 posted on 07/15/2018 6:09:46 PM PDT by MAGAthon
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To: jazusamo

– Transcripts released Wednesday by the Senate Judiciary Committee say that Glenn Simpson, the co-founder of Fusion GPS, had dinner with Russian lawyer Natalia Veselnitskaya both the day before and the day after she met with Donald Trump, Jr. at Trump Tower on June 9, 2016. (11-7-17)
just wanted to make note of this for posterity


45 posted on 07/15/2018 6:24:03 PM PDT by griswold3 (Just another unlicensed nonconformist in am dangerous Liberal world.)
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To: MAGAthon

Yep and it is disgusting. It is one thing for a certain people, or party to be corrupt , but when you have a media covering their corruption and crimes the it is something else, and it pisses me off , especially when I have to try and explain what is happening only for the fool to say are you sure, or that is made up.


46 posted on 07/15/2018 7:04:56 PM PDT by manc ( If they want so called marriage equality then they should support polygamy too.)
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To: Cementjungle
The FBI is corrupt. Plain and simple.

The ENTIRE United States government is corrupt. Plain and simple.

47 posted on 07/15/2018 7:16:13 PM PDT by unixfox (Abolish Slavery, Repeal the 16th Amendment)
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To: joshua c

Had Hillary won the election the Trump Dossier would never have seen the light of day.


48 posted on 07/15/2018 7:25:17 PM PDT by Bookshelf
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To: BenLurkin

[Worse than Watergate

Much worse]

Yep. By a long shot and an order of magnitude I never thought possible in these United States.


49 posted on 07/15/2018 7:30:42 PM PDT by SaveFerris (Luke 17:28 ... as it was in the days of Lot; they did eat, they drank, they bought, they sold ......)
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To: kabar

It’s been a while since I read it and I didn’t remember all the stuff about Cohen. I remember mention of Carter Page and Manafort and thought there was more about Manafort because the man really is sketchy as heck.

Regarding Trump they said that he refused any sweetener deals and that he participated in a bunch of sex parties that nobody can verify, and that he did the infamous “golden showers” destruction of a bed Obama had slept in, which just sounds gross.

What was proved about the activities of the Russians I believe is that they were trying to sow division between groups of voters by funding fringe elements like pretending to be BLM organizers while also organizing counter-protests. This as opposed to the dossier which states that the Russians caused the hawks and people to hate the elites. We are having a major labor disruption and that is going to do the same thing between labor and management that the last one did. Duh.

Trying to sow trans-Atlantic division, well there is that going on but didn’t the Europeans come out strongly against Trump? Are the Russians funding all of those protests? Did the Europeans refuse for years to live up to their NATO obligations? Will they be stronger if they do? Has the Russian gas pipeline been of concern for years? Trump didn’t pull out of NATO, and he has taken quite a lot of abuse. He kicked out a ton of Russian embassy staff and kicked them out of the one on the Left coast which seemed to be causing problems.

Cohen is a question because his lawyer has been making a lot of noise, and I did not see that before.

That said, after everything that Trump has been through I can’t imagine what of a sexual nature he could be blackmailed by the Russians for. He isn’t alleged to have sweetheart deals. If they turn Cohen, maybe, but Cohen has ties to Russian real estate through his wife, and Trump isn’t alleged to have taken any deals.


50 posted on 07/15/2018 7:32:46 PM PDT by BlackAdderess (Aren't you glad Jeb! lost?)
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To: Nifster
sedition: incitement of resistance to or insurrection against lawful authority

According to Merriam Websters Dictionary, the argument is not hard to make. :-)

Hey, not looking to start an argument here, we can agree to disagree here.

51 posted on 07/15/2018 7:51:47 PM PDT by usconservative (When The Ballot Box No Longer Counts, The Ammunition Box Does. (What's In Your Ammo Box?))
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To: BlackAdderess

They did of course get a bunch of Russian military for hacking the DNC.


52 posted on 07/15/2018 7:57:25 PM PDT by BlackAdderess (Aren't you glad Jeb! lost?)
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To: usconservative

I cited the IS criminal code. Kerrigan Webster does not even compare


53 posted on 07/15/2018 8:05:41 PM PDT by Nifster (I see puppy dogs in the clouds)
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To: Nifster
18 U.S. Code § 2384 - Seditious conspiracy US Code Notes

If two or more persons in any State or Territory, or in any place subject to the jurisdiction of the United States, conspire to overthrow, put down, or to destroy by force the Government of the United States, or to levy war against them, or to oppose by force the authority thereof, or by force to prevent, hinder, or delay the execution of any law of the United States, or by force to seize, take, or possess any property of the United States contrary to the authority thereof, they shall each be fined under this title or imprisoned not more than twenty years, or both.

(June 25, 1948, ch. 645, 62 Stat. 808; July 24, 1956, ch. 678, § 1, 70 Stat. 623; Pub. L. 103–322, title XXXIII, § 330016(1)(N), Sept. 13, 1994, 108 Stat. 2148.)
54 posted on 07/15/2018 8:23:00 PM PDT by usconservative (When The Ballot Box No Longer Counts, The Ammunition Box Does. (What's In Your Ammo Box?))
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To: usconservative

where is force required by the legal definition that uses the words BY FORCE?

try
§2383. Rebellion or insurrection
Whoever incites, sets on foot, assists, or engages in any rebellion or insurrection against the authority of the United States or the laws thereof, or gives aid or comfort thereto, shall be fined under this title or imprisoned not more than ten years, or both; and shall be incapable of holding any office under the United States.


55 posted on 07/15/2018 8:56:20 PM PDT by rolling_stone (Hang em high)
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To: DariusBane
The dossier also says that there was a Clinton dossier (Pages 2 and 3):

5. Asked about the Kremlin’s reported intelligence feed to TRUMP over recent years and rumours about a Russian dossier of ‘kornpromat’ on Hillary CLINTON (being circulated), Source B confirmed the file’s existence. S/he confided in a trusted compatriot that it had been collated by Department K of the FSB for many years, dating back to her husband Bill’s presidency, and comprised mainly eavesdropped conversations of various sorts rather than details/evidence of unorthodox or embarrassing behavior. Some of the conversations were from bugged comments CLINTON had made on her various trips to Russia and focused on things she had said which contradicted her current positions on various issues. Others were most probably from phone intercepts.

6. Continuing on this theme, Source G, a senior Kremlin official, confided that the CLINTON dossier was controlled exclusively by Chief Kremlin spokesman, Dmitriy PESKOV, who was responsible for compiling/handling it on the explicit instructions of PUTIN The dossier however had not as yet been made available abroad, including to TRUMP or his campaign team. At present it was unclear what PUTIN’s intentions were in this regard.

56 posted on 07/15/2018 9:06:06 PM PDT by kabar
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To: BenLurkin

Watergate was a puddle this is a tsunami. It is still uncertain whether the nation will survive this sedition, subversion, fascism.

The shit storm is still to come so batten down the hatches.


57 posted on 07/15/2018 9:16:57 PM PDT by arrogantsob (See "Chaos and Mayhem" at Amazon.com)
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To: BlackAdderess
Regarding Trump they said that he refused any sweetener deals and that he participated in a bunch of sex parties that nobody can verify, and that he did the infamous “golden showers” destruction of a bed Obama had slept in, which just sounds gross.

A very minor mention (two paragraphs) that seems to have received all the attention and the only part that Comey briefed Trump on.

That said, after everything that Trump has been through I can’t imagine what of a sexual nature he could be blackmailed by the Russians for. He isn’t alleged to have sweetheart deals. If they turn Cohen, maybe, but Cohen has ties to Russian real estate through his wife, and Trump isn’t alleged to have taken any deals.

I suggest you reread the dossier. Mueller is placing major pressure on Manafort to divulge what is alleged in the dossier. Cohen is also being heavily pressured because of the key role he allegedly played in coordinating with the Kremlin. If they are able to prove some of these allegations, then the dossier becomes a valid basis for the FISA warrant and surveillance of the Trump campaign and transition teams.

My point is that Mueller is heavily invested in proving that the dossier is true. The Dossier is a human intelligence document or [HUMINT] and therefore should be viewed not as evidence in a trial, but as a road map for investigators. It wouldn't surprise me to learn that the source of the information in the dossier comes from FBI and CIA files to frame Trump. Nellie Ohr was passing information to Steele who then incorporated it into the dossier rather than the other way around. This was an elaborate plot cooked up by the DNC using the FBI and CIA.

If I were the Reps in Congress, I would devote considerable effort to disprove the allegations contained in the dossier, rather than just pass them off as unverified and salacious.

58 posted on 07/15/2018 9:32:50 PM PDT by kabar
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To: Bookshelf
"Had Hillary won the election the Trump Dossier would never have seen the light of day."

Au contraire. It would have been used to punish him, and we never would have had Rogers tell Trump to leave the Tower.

Cankles never thought they would lose. So when the heat got to her - for losing - this is what they did, they went ahead and used the dossier anyway.

Go back and look at the 3 months after the election, what the beaten Democrats did during that time frame holds the key to all the Mueller bs.

59 posted on 07/15/2018 9:46:08 PM PDT by StAnDeliver ("Mueller personally delivered US uranium to Russia.")
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To: kabar

Can you give me my eyeballs back?

What a load.


60 posted on 07/15/2018 9:51:16 PM PDT by arrogantsob (See "Chaos and Mayhem" at Amazon.com)
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