Posted on 06/21/2018 9:54:25 AM PDT by Poison Pill
Online shoppers could find costs going up after the Supreme Court did away Thursday with a decades-old precedent limiting the ability of states to collect sales tax on certain out-of-state Internet purchases.
The 5-4 ruling called the current rules “unsound and incorrect.”
(Excerpt) Read more at foxnews.com ...
Lemme guess—this ruling was justified under the auspices of the Commerce Clause, right?
The Supreme Court "merely" ruled that such a policy regarding sales tax would be Constitutional, correct?
That doesn't mean that there will necessarily be any change in our sales tax laws—at least not for a week or so...
This ruling is Jeff Bezos’ wet dream come true. Amazon will get bigger than ever now.””
How do you figure. Amazon got where it is by not collecting sales tax, which attracted a huge portion of his buyers. So your thinking is, if he collects sales tax, which will cost him money, and customers no longer see any advantage to buy from Amazon, his business grows? You got some odd thinking there. Bezos is the enemy, he is the WaPo, and he is the limo-libturd. I stopped buying anything Amazon years ago, regardless of the savings.
Amazon has been collecting sales tax in every state for over a year. Oppressive regulation always benefits the largest player because they spread the compliance cost over the most transactions. It's the smaller players who will get hurt. If trying to get Bezos was the goal here, it backfired.
very quickly, hundreds of companies will come up with the software program where you put a ZIP Code or street address and get the sales tax rate. Of course it will require constant updating. It won’t be a nightmare for small businesses but it will be an extra cost.
It’s not just where the purchaser lives. It’s what is being sold. Good example in the article - a Snickers bar is a different tax rate than a Twix bar because the Snickers has flour in it. Take a look at any state’s Dept of Revenue website and you will see that sales tax laws are extremely complicated. If you are a big company you can buy an expensive software package that will get it mostly right, but even those don’t work 100%. I used to work at a large company with sales in over 40 states, and we had sales tax audits all the time, by various different states. They would always find something. Trust me - it WILL be a nightmare, unless they come up with some simplified rules that all the states can agree on.
Big retailers like Amazon and Walmart already do this. They charge me the basic sales tax rate for non-food items and they charge me the food sales tax rate for food items. There’s already software in place to do this. As a former software engineer, writing this would be a piece a cake. Small businesses however would have to buy access to a website or a program to do it for them.
I was only thinking of one side of the equation, calculating the tax. You’re right, paying it out could be a nightmare. State governments will have to have just one input portal and then they can take on the burden of distributing it
And you have the tax police that will be auditing the small businesses…
This is about fairness, not about raising revenue. If internet businesses succeed over brick and mortar due to natural advantages, great. More power to them. But placing the burden of sales tax on brick and mortar while exempting internet retailers is an arbitrary and unfair advantage given to them.
Why do some people prefer internet retailers over brick and mortar? Generally two reasons. Convenience and cost. The convenience aspect is a matter of personal preference. On the other hand the lower costs can be judged objectively and are not primarily the result of inherent advantages. They largely result from the tax burden that brick and mortar stores are required to bare, and in the case of companies like Amazon, they’re also the result of government subsidized shipping via the USPO.
Bullshit squared.
South Dakota wasn't concerned about fairness. They wanted money.
This is a straight up UNCONSTITUTIONAL money grab. Congress alone gets to make this decision.
Well, that's going to be a matter of perspective. Lowest price for the best practice solution is about $28,000 per year plus the cost of the operators hours to do the compliance work. Let's call it $30,000. Operators with some size will be able to absorb that with various levels of pain. For many mom and pop shops it will be a death sentence. I guess one person's inconvenience is another person's bankruptcy.
Yep, Cotton Ball and other NON-small business owners don’t have a clue. Actual small businesses like ours will be forced into taking ALL hard goods offline from our web store/presence.
There is also allot of spouters here who think their vision of how computer’s work is soooo simple... and yet they have NO F’n clue how many unique zip codes exist and/or the number of taxiing rules within similar jurisdiction.
We cannot afford an outside agencies fees nor be able to manage time wise this cluster fk as our operation is only 2 people.
We can know/operate regarding OUR location’s taxes, incorporating millions of data into an ever changing lookup table thanks to this ruling can ONLY be afforded by the large retailers.
The movements in stock prices noted above indicate the market understands just how f’d this situation is!
Good luck with collecting it.
SCOTUS must have paused for some time in Colorado and partaken in some of the recreational dope to come up with this doozy of a ruling. More than willing to start printing tea bags with ‘FU’ on them to sell to small business people to send to states that demand collection of sales taxes.
There's a few lines in the sand out there, this, for me, is one of them. Convict me before you force your slavery on me. Otherwise, I'll take $78 per hour to prepare tax forms for states I have no presence in, plus a 5% recovery fee for all credit card transactions, payable in advance with any overage refunded as part of the return.
This sounds like an all-around confused mess. What does an import to or from a state mean? Is that like importing or exporting to a place outside of the U.S.? Or does it imply within the U.S.? And of course,there’s the question of those states without a sales tax. How will they be impacted? Not saying it is right or wrong to do this sales tax thing at this point in this way,but it sure seems to be confusing everybody. Maybe it is a case of everything going along well,so they decided to shake it up a little...????
Not only is there no limit to a taxing entity’s greed,but no limit to the grief & aggravation put upon those who have to comply.
where do you get $30k per business from? are there online
software companies providing this program already?
Then pray none of the 45 states ever audits you (but some of them at some point will). You haven't had fun until you've had a sales and use tax auditor crawl up your ass.
take a look at post 99
I guess Delaware isn't on your radar?
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I'm about 25 minutes away (in light traffic) from a very large mall in New Hampshire (no sales tax).I'm likely to buy a big screen TV soon and was planning to use that big electronics store in NYC but now I'll probably just drive up north.
Here in the Gay State residents are required to report all purchases made out of state on their tax return and pay the state sales tax on those purchases.Somehow I always forget to do so...and haven't yet lost a minute's sleep due to my oversight.
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