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Denuclearization: President Trump and Kim Jong Un End Historic Summit With Signing Ceremony
Townhall.com ^ | June 12, 2018 | Katie Pavlich

Posted on 06/12/2018 4:48:52 AM PDT by Kaslin

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To: JME_FAN
Are you on board to have peace in the region, and stop wasting our money on being the world’s police? Or are you wanting to keep the globalist “war / threat of war, everywhere, all the time” status quo?

So you're for calling them "war games" like Kim does and pulling the troops out?

61 posted on 06/12/2018 9:44:32 AM PDT by DoodleDawg
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To: 1Old Pro

Coming soon: He only made a historical peace with North Korea so the GOP would win the midterms. Count on it. First Wednesday in November they’ll be wondering about collusion with Little Kim.


62 posted on 06/12/2018 10:52:27 AM PDT by Eleutheria5 (“If you are not prepared to use force to defend civilization, then be prepared to accept barbarism.)
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To: Kaslin

I need stronger superlatives to describe Donald the Great.

When this started, I was afraid that it would end in nuclear war. I didn’t see how our President was going to pull a win out of this one.

President Trump, I remove my hat and bow deeply. Well done indeed, sir.


63 posted on 06/12/2018 11:03:56 AM PDT by dsc (Our system of government cannot survive one-party control of communications.)
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To: Angels27

“If we pull troops out of South Korea, you can bet the North will invade again.”

I don’t think that is a foregone conclusion. Becoming the next South Korea is so much to North Korea’s (and Kim’s advantage) that it’s entirely plausible they will take that road.

Further, in 1950 we couldn’t respond without sending fighting men to confront them on the ground. Today we can destroy them without breaking a sweat.


64 posted on 06/12/2018 11:10:43 AM PDT by dsc (Our system of government cannot survive one-party control of communications.)
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To: DoodleDawg

I don’t give a flying rat’s a$$ what they call them - because it is totally inconsequential with the primary goal. You want get wrapped up in pointless semantics, that’s your problem.

The troops WILL eventually be relocated. As I stated, you cannot have it both ways. If you want KJU to drop the nuclear threat against the U.S. and our allies, then you need to give him a sense that his regime is secure. Again, you fail to comprehend the larger picture. This is about getting NUKES out of his hands, so that he cannot launch them against US! Or do you not understand that salient point?

If you want to find reason to fault Trump, then - judging by your past positions and antagonism towards him - I’m sure you’ll find your whipping post.

See, Missy, I didn’t just fall off the melon truck.


65 posted on 06/12/2018 12:13:21 PM PDT by JME_FAN (uired to)
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To: ClearCase_guy

Them bastards had better


66 posted on 06/12/2018 12:22:06 PM PDT by Kaslin (Politicians are not born; they are excreted -Civilibus nati sunt; sunt excernitur. (Cicero))
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To: Old Teufel Hunden

With relations on a track to increased normality, why not look at a base in NK? Treat ‘em like the allies we’d like them to ultimately really be & involve them in exercises right along with SK and Japan?

Trump has got this far treating Kim as if he really wants to bring NK into the fold of free civilization with burgeoning trade, and economic growth — it would be an oddity to omit the military aspect of that. Not that we should share tech, but have joint exercises. I’ve opined elsewhere, and I’l repeat it here: Trump’s talking to NK like they WANT to be more like allies, and less like enemies, and that treatment is fostering a response that more resembles the response of an ally than an enemy.

You reap what you sow. Imagine that as foreign policy.


67 posted on 06/12/2018 1:37:26 PM PDT by HKMk23 (You ask how to fight an idea? Well, I'll tell you how: with another idea!)
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To: Mariner

Seems like nothing and that Kim won the rhetoric war getting Trump to declare that Kim cares about his people. Time for Trump to move back to domestic issues.


68 posted on 06/12/2018 3:55:06 PM PDT by Sam Gamgee
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To: ClearCase_guy

Are you drunk?


69 posted on 06/12/2018 5:57:22 PM PDT by warsaw44
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To: HKMk23
"With relations on a track to increased normality, why not look at a base in NK?"

Are you really being serious?? If so, I have to tell you that you are getting out way over your skis!! We don't even know if he's going to renege on this deal. Let's take a deep breath and hope for the best. For so many reasons this would never happen. For one thing, name a communist country where we have a base?

I had mentioned before what about a base in Vietnam. I was thinking of a naval base in Haiphong harbor but even that seems crazy. However, at least we are normalizing relations with them and we have had port call visits of U.S. naval ships to Vietnam. Even still, that relationship is years away from being closer and this is after 43 years of the war being over. Most likely if we moved our troops out of South Korea (I'm thinking in about 5 - 10 year time frame) they would be re-aligned to places like Guam, possibly Alaska, possibly Australia, possibly Philippines.
70 posted on 06/12/2018 8:04:10 PM PDT by Old Teufel Hunden
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To: Old Teufel Hunden

I am serous, but I didn’t mean TOMORROW. The idea should be part of The Big Conversation with Kim, though. An in-country base. Joint operations. All-region exercises. Security planning. Global strategic advantage.

Any number of positive reasons to have this ON the table as a long-range goal with NK. Even including the idea in the conversation signals that, OH Hell YEAH we’re serious about seeing BEYOND near-term denuclearization to a positively visionary change for that country.

It’s already been established that we’d play Hard Ball if we had to. Now flip the canvas and paint a compelling picture of The Way It Could Be. Trade. Manufacturing.
Tourism. Cooperation. Economic growth. If military aspects of normalized relations aren’t included, that telegraphs a near-term hedging of the bet that voices an expectation that NK won’t follow through on the recent commit. That’s bad juju.

Far better to paint a beautiful picture basis the full and complete expectation that Kim will do everything he’s said he’d do, and thus bolster HIS sense of our expectation that he’s going to so as to increase the compelling force whatever personal resolve he felt at the signing.


71 posted on 06/13/2018 10:56:25 AM PDT by HKMk23 (You ask how to fight an idea? Well, I'll tell you how: with another idea!)
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To: HKMk23

Personally, I think we stick to condos on the beach he’s launching missiles over.... :-)

I think we could give him security guarantees by saying you denuke, we sign the end of Korean war treaty and then there’s no reason for troops so we’ll start withdrawing troops. No military presence in South Korea will make him realize we’re serious about our security guarantees.


72 posted on 06/13/2018 12:14:04 PM PDT by Old Teufel Hunden
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